Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[eastie]

... i find it alarming that having no real serious attempt on target and creating little of note that the manager thinks we were excellent last night

"no serious attempt"? Other than the Tevez off-the-line clearance in the 1st half, the Toure saving header in the 2nd and the credible claims for a penalty late on?

Say these things enough and they become believable.

As for what managers say, I'm amazed so much of what is said is pored over and dissected so assiduously by us fans: we know that most of what they say is either drivel or aimed not at us but at players, their Chairman or other managers.

One serious attempt my post was meant to say, you seem to have changed it to no serious attempt - the benteke header yes was our only real on target attempt- i thought the lack of creativity and lack of credible goal attempts last night was poor and the performance was far from excellent.

"We're playing really well " says lambert- one win in 11 games suggests not - we have gifted goals galore this season and the buck stops with the manager.

[aj2k77]

 IF the money was available to him in the Jan window, and he still failed to go out and get 2/3 experienced players to play in central defence, and central midfield, then he should go.His arrogance is detremental to the club.

 Why did'nt he sell Bent, to anyone, QPR, anyone to buy the 2/3 players...why?

I don't trust him to buy anyone decent.

Benteke?

Is that all we are going to hear when anyone brings up the crap signings he's made? ''What about Benteke?''

He's the one pearl in a sea of shite. Reminds me of the Liverpool game keep getting brought up as a Lambert defense as we conceded our 18th goal in 4 games without reply.

I think it was probably your use of the word "anyone" whcih invited the response.

It wasn't my reply but I share the sentiments. If we are working on a very small budget, the only transfer that looks good quality is the £7m international. The lower priced ones, which I'd guess will be the stock signings we make from now on look tosh.

Bennett, Lowton, Westwood, Sylla, El Hamadi, Dawkins, Guzan, Bowery, Vlaar. How many honestly would make other premier league sides? 2 maybe? £18m spent on that lot.

[Clampy]

 IF the money was available to him in the Jan window, and he still failed to go out and get 2/3 experienced players to play in central defence, and central midfield, then he should go.His arrogance is detremental to the club.

 Why did'nt he sell Bent, to anyone, QPR, anyone to buy the 2/3 players...why?

I don't trust him to buy anyone decent.

Benteke?

Is that all we are going to hear when anyone brings up the crap signings he's made? ''What about Benteke?''

He's the one pearl in a sea of shite. Reminds me of the Liverpool game keep getting brought up as a Lambert defense as we conceded our 18th goal in 4 games without reply.

I think it was probably your use of the word "anyone" whcih invited the response.

Which is the right answer. Lowton and Westwood have been good as well but they've just played too many games and it's beginning to tell. Re-signing Guzan was also a very good move. The jury's out on the rest though until next season.

[Eigentor]

Ricardo Carvalho has been sitting on his hands at Real Madrid this year as 5th choice centre half and probably won't play another game his season. I know Eig is a big fan.

But Clark is so much better.

[aj2k77]

A sea of shite?  Obviously not been watching Lowton or Westwood this season then, both great young players.  Vlaar when fit is a step up from Dunne and Collins.

Disagree.

Vlaar i'd rate below Dunne. Can't see what anyone has seen in him, positionally not the best and couldn't organise a raffle. The only things going for him are he can bring the ball out of defence and has a cool if undeserved nickname.

Lowton and Westwood, I might just be a miserable sod but to me they haven't shown anything to me to suggest that are both ''great young players''. I can't see either of them getting in another Premier League side bar perhaps Reading.

[fredm]

The Swansea chairman has said that although they don't want to lose Laudrup they have already put in place arrangements to appoint his successor. Is that how a club should be run?

[Greg N'Ash]

The Swansea chairman has said that although they don't want to lose Laudrup they have already put in place arrangements to appoint his successor. Is that how a club should be run?

TBF, there's no chance of Villa 'losing' Lambchop. He's here until the pain of employing him outweighs the pain of paying him off*






*May

[supertom]

I like Westwood and Lowton. I think they'll make the grade long term. That said they'll never be more than average prem players (IF they're lucky). The problem is that they've been given too much too soon. Both needs a spell out of the side, particularly Lowton. You're talking about players who should maybe be playing 15-20 games at most in their first season, being eased in, but they've been thrown into the mixer. Young players will always be inconsistent.
But yes, Benteke aside the rest of the new signings have been tosh.

I'd have a fit Dunne over Vlaar any day of the week. A much better player on his day. A proper defender. His influence and attitude are questionnable so in that regard I do think Vlaar has an advantage. His attitude has been first rate. He's just not brilliant defensively.

[Risso]

A sea of shite?  Obviously not been watching Lowton or Westwood this season then, both great young players.  Vlaar when fit is a step up from Dunne and Collins.

Disagree.

Vlaar i'd rate below Dunne. Can't see what anyone has seen in him, positionally not the best and couldn't organise a raffle. The only things going for him are he can bring the ball out of defence and has a cool if undeserved nickname.

Lowton and Westwood, I might just be a miserable sod but to me they haven't shown anything to me to suggest that are both ''great young players''. I can't see either of them getting in another Premier League side bar perhaps Reading.

Same here.  I lost count of the times Lowton lost his man yesterday, leading to crosses coming in.  Both might be decent players one day, but they've been massively overplayed this season and it isn't doing them any favours.

[Des Little]

The Swansea chairman has said that although they don't want to lose Laudrup they have already put in place arrangements to appoint his successor. Is that how a club should be run?

TBF, there's no chance of Villa 'losing' Lambchop. He's here until the pain of employing him outweighs the pain of paying him off*






*May

If we go down, I want him to stay and clean up the fcuking mess he's made

[saunders_heroes]

The Swansea chairman has said that although they don't want to lose Laudrup they have already put in place arrangements to appoint his successor. Is that how a club should be run?

TBF, there's no chance of Villa 'losing' Lambchop. He's here until the pain of employing him outweighs the pain of paying him off*






*May

If we go down, I want him to stay and clean up the fcuking mess he's made

He doesn't deserve the chance and should be sacked on the spot.

[pauliewalnuts]

The Swansea chairman has said that although they don't want to lose Laudrup they have already put in place arrangements to appoint his successor. Is that how a club should be run?

If we did that in their circumstances, this place would go into meltdown at the defeatism and small-time thinking of practically admitting our manager is offski.

[Mister E]

... i find it alarming that having no real serious attempt on target and creating little of note that the manager thinks we were excellent last night

"no serious attempt"? Other than the Tevez off-the-line clearance in the 1st half, the Toure saving header in the 2nd and the credible claims for a penalty late on?

Say these things enough and they become believable.

As for what managers say, I'm amazed so much of what is said is pored over and dissected so assiduously by us fans: we know that most of what they say is either drivel or aimed not at us but at players, their Chairman or other managers.

One serious attempt my post was meant to say, you seem to have changed it to no serious attempt - the benteke header yes was our only real on target attempt- i thought the lack of creativity and lack of credible goal attempts last night was poor and the performance was far from excellent.

"We're playing really well " says lambert- one win in 11 games suggests not - we have gifted goals galore this season and the buck stops with the manager.

I thought the performance was okay but I agree we lacked the creativity to put Citeh under concerted pressure. We had more than one serious attempt at goal (honestly!) but the crossing was poor, the support around Benteke was poor and our inability to get wide to provide support for the full-backs was terrible.

That said, the opposition were comfortable in defence and the enforced substitution of Rodwell played to their advantage (in pushing YT deeper).

[Mister E]

A sea of shite?  Obviously not been watching Lowton or Westwood this season then, both great young players.  Vlaar when fit is a step up from Dunne and Collins.

Disagree.

Vlaar i'd rate below Dunne. Can't see what anyone has seen in him, positionally not the best and couldn't organise a raffle. The only things going for him are he can bring the ball out of defence and has a cool if undeserved nickname.

Lowton and Westwood, I might just be a miserable sod but to me they haven't shown anything to me to suggest that are both ''great young players''. I can't see either of them getting in another Premier League side bar perhaps Reading.

Same here.  I lost count of the times Lowton lost his man yesterday, leading to crosses coming in.  Both might be decent players one day, but they've been massively overplayed this season and it isn't doing them any favours.

Lowton has got progressively worse this season.
Westwood needs stronger players around him.

Guzan's re-signing was a smart move.

[eastie]

Mister e - yes we lacked support to benteke, the lack of real quality width this season is depressing- nzogbia and gabby were both poor and i really can't see why Carruthers hasn't had a chance this season- he is direct , runs at players , has pace and good delivery - the full backs are often crossing from 30 yards out and benteke is starved of quality service.

I agree rodwell going off was good for city and not for us.
Lowton and Westwood are both tiring as we get to the business end of the season and its a worry.