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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848969 times)

Offline Hoppo

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2955 on: January 26, 2013, 09:34:56 AM »
Are you really 47 Eastie?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2956 on: January 26, 2013, 09:35:40 AM »
I have always been a fan of Lambo, he has built an incredibly strong team at Norwich in three seasons, taking over the day after the canaries had lost 7-1 with Lambert's former club Colchester.

But THIS Paul Lambert looks as the double of THAT Paul Lambert. For instance, Paul Lambert's Norwich conceded the lowest % of goals from set-pieces in 2011-12, Aston Villa the highest (47%).     
Apart from the fact that our midfield is the weakest ever, this Villa don't have even the clue of a defensive organization. Since the Chelsea defeat the team deeped in a crisis of mistrust that Lambert hasn't been able to manage.

But I don't blame Randy for this. Everyone that now blames him was happy for signign Lambo and we must not forget thet the chairman  pays 80000 £ a week for players like Stephen Ireland. 

It's  quite clear that we must do deep changes if  we want to avoid relegation. But I still would prefer to be relegated with this Villa, run by people that love the club, than to play in champions league with a club  that sells its roots and identity to a russian billionaire 

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2957 on: January 26, 2013, 09:37:02 AM »
Are you really 47 Eastie?


I want lambert out - you want lambert in - accept it and get over it - dont start your insults hoppo- ive seen the way you talk to others, and quite frankly am surprised you havent been banned.
You have your view - i have mine !
« Last Edit: January 26, 2013, 09:41:16 AM by eastie »

Offline mr-villa

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2958 on: January 26, 2013, 09:37:38 AM »
They know Glen as well don't they from when he was scouting

Bit dour but a good organiser and with good contacts in the game - not inspiring but beggars cant be choosers.


Eastie I hope you soon come to terms with the fact that Lambert is not going to be removed/leave his job.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2959 on: January 26, 2013, 09:40:24 AM »
They know Glen as well don't they from when he was scouting

Bit dour but a good organiser and with good contacts in the game - not inspiring but beggars cant be choosers.


Eastie I hope you soon come to terms with the fact that Lambert is not going to be removed/leave his job.

Dont worry i will be here long after lerner and lambert have deserted this sorry mess .

Offline mr-villa

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2960 on: January 26, 2013, 09:41:29 AM »
He's going nowhere. We are. Down. Goodnight.

He's going nowhere.  We are not down, there are still 15 league games to play for Christ sake, that's 40% of the league programme.  Good Morning.

Just enough time then for someone to come in and possibly save us .

I wouldn't argue with the fact that a 15 game programme is a reasonable time frame for a coach to have an effect on a squad of players.  The problem for you Eastie is that the man in charge for those 15 games will be Paul Lambert.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2961 on: January 26, 2013, 09:42:33 AM »
He's going nowhere. We are. Down. Goodnight.

He's going nowhere.  We are not down, there are still 15 league games to play for Christ sake, that's 40% of the league programme.  Good Morning.

Just enough time then for someone to come in and possibly save us .

I wouldn't argue with the fact that a 15 game programme is a reasonable time frame for a coach to have an effect on a squad of players.  The problem for you Eastie is that the man in charge for those 15 games will be Paul Lambert.

Not the problem for me pal, the problem for aston villa - its lerners money down the pan , not mine.
Maybe you would like to inform why you are so happy for mr lambert to remain?

Offline john e

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2962 on: January 26, 2013, 09:50:51 AM »
They know Glen as well don't they from when he was scouting

Bit dour but a good organiser and with good contacts in the game - not inspiring but beggars cant be choosers.


Eastie I hope you soon come to terms with the fact that Lambert is not going to be removed/leave his job.



Yeah,
 we heard all that same talk last season with TSM, he was here for the long term, he wasn't going anywhere, posters exactly like you telling us that it was a FACT that he 'wasn't going anywhere'
No doubt you were one of them that got it wrong

Turns out it was a load of bollocks just like your post,

The tin tack can't be far of now,
 there is always a tipping point and that might well have come and gone already, even so if the decline continues for another couple of matches there is no way he can hang on, no matter what your fact post says

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2963 on: January 26, 2013, 09:52:40 AM »
Exactly mcleish was still telling all and sundry he was planning for the summer blissfully unaware he was being sacked hours later .

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2964 on: January 26, 2013, 09:58:00 AM »
Paul Lambert, 'I'm no quitter'. You may not be in terms of resigning, but you've given up all effort to try and deal with our problems.

Offline mr-villa

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2965 on: January 26, 2013, 09:59:09 AM »
He's going nowhere. We are. Down. Goodnight.

He's going nowhere.  We are not down, there are still 15 league games to play for Christ sake, that's 40% of the league programme.  Good Morning.

Just enough time then for someone to come in and possibly save us .

I wouldn't argue with the fact that a 15 game programme is a reasonable time frame for a coach to have an effect on a squad of players.  The problem for you Eastie is that the man in charge for those 15 games will be Paul Lambert.

Not the problem for me pal, the problem for aston villa - its lerners money down the pan , not mine.
Maybe you would like to inform why you are so happy for mr lambert to remain?

Because I believe that the 15 games that remain is more than enough for us to get over the line and that he will manage the team into a survival position by the end of the season.  I also think that getting Dunne back into the team, which is going to happen over the next week or so, will help with organisation and leadership on the pitch during games.  I am also not convinced based on what I see with my own eyes that the five teams who are likely to be battling it out with us are going to achieve significantly better results over the 15 game programme.  Take Reading as an example they have been totally outplayed in their last two PL games, battered by both West Brom and Newcastle but yet managed to win not through their own ability but through a combination of pure fluke and their opponents failures.  Southampton likewise their results away at Villa and home v Everton were results achieved against the run of play and not deserved on the quality of their play.  Wigan will always hover down their they are not capable of stringing a run together either.  It will be a great scrap over the next few months and I would stick with PL because I am sure he can get us safe but I admit it will be 17th or 16th at best, not great, not in the plan but good enough for us to take stock and move forward.

Offline Seb_AVFC

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2966 on: January 26, 2013, 10:00:16 AM »
It's hard to still back him, but I still do. Normally I'm one of the first to get irritated by managers, but not this time around. It's obvious this team needs some older heads in it. Yesterday was the last wake up call. Either we address it over the coming days, either it will be a long journey till the end of the season.

Some fans may be resigned to going down, but I'm not. I can't be there every game due to location but rest assured the team still gets me 100% backing. This fragile team will need all the support they can get. The fans have been top draw till now, let's continue our support and hope for the best.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2967 on: January 26, 2013, 10:03:44 AM »
He's going nowhere. We are. Down. Goodnight.

He's going nowhere.  We are not down, there are still 15 league games to play for Christ sake, that's 40% of the league programme.  Good Morning.

Just enough time then for someone to come in and possibly save us .

I wouldn't argue with the fact that a 15 game programme is a reasonable time frame for a coach to have an effect on a squad of players.  The problem for you Eastie is that the man in charge for those 15 games will be Paul Lambert.

Not the problem for me pal, the problem for aston villa - its lerners money down the pan , not mine.
Maybe you would like to inform why you are so happy for mr lambert to remain?

Because I believe that the 15 games that remain is more than enough for us to get over the line and that he will manage the team into a survival position by the end of the season.  I also think that getting Dunne back into the team, which is going to happen over the next week or so, will help with organisation and leadership on the pitch during games.  I am also not convinced based on what I see with my own eyes that the five teams who are likely to be battling it out with us are going to achieve significantly better results over the 15 game programme.  Take Reading as an example they have been totally outplayed in their last two PL games, battered by both West Brom and Newcastle but yet managed to win not through their own ability but through a combination of pure fluke and their opponents failures.  Southampton likewise their results away at Villa and home v Everton were results achieved against the run of play and not deserved on the quality of their play.  Wigan will always hover down their they are not capable of stringing a run together either.  It will be a great scrap over the next few months and I would stick with PL because I am sure he can get us safe but I admit it will be 17th or 16th at best, not great, not in the plan but good enough for us to take stock and move forward.

The teams around us are all strengthening , and also picking up points and some momentum- we are hurtling the other way , dunne will not make that much difference if fit , we are a very poor side .
We have won 5 of our last 40 league games, have an appalling goal difference and a manager who has lost the plot - we are not going to stay up with paul lambert , but i accept your opinion and we will agree to differ .

Offline mr-villa

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2968 on: January 26, 2013, 10:12:12 AM »
They know Glen as well don't they from when he was scouting

Bit dour but a good organiser and with good contacts in the game - not inspiring but beggars cant be choosers.


Eastie I hope you soon come to terms with the fact that Lambert is not going to be removed/leave his job.



Yeah,
 we heard all that same talk last season with TSM, he was here for the long term, he wasn't going anywhere, posters exactly like you telling us that it was a FACT that he 'wasn't going anywhere'
No doubt you were one of them that got it wrong

Turns out it was a load of bollocks just like your post,

The tin tack can't be far of now,
 there is always a tipping point and that might well have come and gone already, even so if the decline continues for another couple of matches there is no way he can hang on, no matter what your fact post says

Hi john e.  The point I am making is that I don't believe he will be sacked during the season that's all.  I was in favour of removing TSM at the end of last season, at the Bolton game I told my son that my belief was that that night the board would have made up their mind that he would be replaced.  They subsequently allowed him to take us through to the end of the season then got rid as I fully expected.

The same may happen this season.  Our debates are an exchange of opinion, nothing more nothing less.  I enjoy reading others thoughts and expressions of frustration and ideas for what they think should happen that's why I spend time on here just like you.  I don't mind others calling for PL to be sacked but just wish that everybody who does that would qualify their call by including their choice of replacement, the problem is most don't.  With the opportunity for altering the squad rapidly diminishing any replacement would have to work with what we already have at the club and that is another reason for my personal choice which is to give him until the end of the season then reappraise the situation.  I fully respect your and everybody else's right to disagree with that opinion and express that disagreement vehemently but politely within this forum.

Offline Marlon From Bearwood

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2969 on: January 26, 2013, 10:16:57 AM »
He's going nowhere. We are. Down. Goodnight.

He's going nowhere.  We are not down, there are still 15 league games to play for Christ sake, that's 40% of the league programme.  Good Morning.

If we can only win 4 out of 23 games, how on earth are we going to win 6 out of 15 with confidence now at an all time low? The only option for me to galvanise us in the short term is a change of manager, even if its just a temporary 6 month job just to get us out of the shit.

 


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