Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[rob_bridge]

Development??

@7govscott: @PeteSmithBBC hearing that Lambert could be replaced by Glenn Roeder tomorrow! If correct that would be an incredible appointment by #AVFC

Glen Roeder- well he has one relegation already  I suppose

Who is this pete smith at the bbc?

Certainly a joe kinnear type of appointment if it did happen but to be honest roeder couldnt do worse than this guy - do it and lets move on - with lambert we are dead and buried.

Sadly I feel it is too late - we are already dead & buried. Lerner knows it, Faulkner knows it & Lambert knows it. Therefore no one will get sacked & we will just keep going being an average team on a low wage bill in the championship.

Low wage - I doubt it. Given, Ireland, Hutton, CNZ all have plenty of time left on their contract an no one will buy them - at a rough calculation about 12m a year for a couple of years at least. Nothing low about that.

[preston28]

Development??

@7govscott: @PeteSmithBBC hearing that Lambert could be replaced by Glenn Roeder tomorrow! If correct that would be an incredible appointment by #AVFC

Glen Roeder- well he has one relegation already  I suppose

Who is this pete smith at the bbc?

Certainly a joe kinnear type of appointment if it did happen but to be honest roeder couldnt do worse than this guy - do it and lets move on - with lambert we are dead and buried.

Sadly I feel it is too late - we are already dead & buried. Lerner knows it, Faulkner knows it & Lambert knows it. Therefore no one will get sacked & we will just keep going being an average team on a low wage bill in the championship.

Low wage - I doubt it. Given, Ireland, Hutton, CNZ all have plenty of time left on their contract an no one will buy them - at a rough calculation about 12m a year for a couple of years at least. Nothing low about that.

They'all be off as soon as season ends!

[rob_bridge]

Development??

@7govscott: @PeteSmithBBC hearing that Lambert could be replaced by Glenn Roeder tomorrow! If correct that would be an incredible appointment by #AVFC

Glen Roeder- well he has one relegation already  I suppose

Certainly a joe kinnear type of appointment if it did happen but to be honest roeder couldnt do worse than this guy - do it and lets move on - with lambert we are dead and buried.

And then who at the start of next season? And then who after 4 months when we are mid table in the Championship. And then who when we don't make the playoffs.

We are going down unless we reincarnate Stein and Clough in the next few days.

If you have the right man you keep him, but if you have the  wrong man you dont bury your head in the sand and pretend it will all be ok - it takes balls to admit it was a mistake , but randy must show those balls and we move on with a new man - you cant keep sacking managers but when someone fucks up as spectacularly as lambert has then action has be taken fast .

Fair point but you didn't answer my question(s), the 1-2m on compensation notwithstanding.

Who after Roeder (if it is him) or Sid and then who after him (Megson?) and who after him because that will be the reality (ala Coventry, Leicester and Sheff Wed) shy on the Premier Season ending now.

[rob_bridge]

Development??

@7govscott: @PeteSmithBBC hearing that Lambert could be replaced by Glenn Roeder tomorrow! If correct that would be an incredible appointment by #AVFC

Glen Roeder- well he has one relegation already  I suppose

Who is this pete smith at the bbc?

Certainly a joe kinnear type of appointment if it did happen but to be honest roeder couldnt do worse than this guy - do it and lets move on - with lambert we are dead and buried.

Sadly I feel it is too late - we are already dead & buried. Lerner knows it, Faulkner knows it & Lambert knows it. Therefore no one will get sacked & we will just keep going being an average team on a low wage bill in the championship.

Low wage - I doubt it. Given, Ireland, Hutton, CNZ all have plenty of time left on their contract an no one will buy them - at a rough calculation about 12m a year for a couple of years at least. Nothing low about that.

They'all be off as soon as season ends!

Really? Who is going to pay them comparable wages? Not as if any of them are playing regularly now to put themselves in the shop window? We may get a mug punter for CNZ. The others no way - Shays retirement fund, Ireland doesn't look as if he likes playing football for anyone and Hutton isn't good enough to play parks football

[eastie]

Development??

@7govscott: @PeteSmithBBC hearing that Lambert could be replaced by Glenn Roeder tomorrow! If correct that would be an incredible appointment by #AVFC

Glen Roeder- well he has one relegation already  I suppose

Certainly a joe kinnear type of appointment if it did happen but to be honest roeder couldnt do worse than this guy - do it and lets move on - with lambert we are dead and buried.

And then who at the start of next season? And then who after 4 months when we are mid table in the Championship. And then who when we don't make the playoffs.

We are going down unless we reincarnate Stein and Clough in the next few days.

If you have the right man you keep him, but if you have the  wrong man you dont bury your head in the sand and pretend it will all be ok - it takes balls to admit it was a mistake , but randy must show those balls and we move on with a new man - you cant keep sacking managers but when someone fucks up as spectacularly as lambert has then action has be taken fast .

Fair point but you didn't answer my question(s), the 1-2m on compensation notwithstanding.

Who after Roeder (if it is him) or Sid and then who after him (Megson?) and who after him because that will be the reality (ala Coventry, Leicester and Sheff Wed) shy on the Premier Season ending now.

£2m compensation or a loss of £70m plus in tv rights ?  Get rid !
As for who in the summer , we will deal with that at the time , gus poyet ?
If we get the right man we will keep him - lambert has been a disaster , he is clearly the wrong man and must go .
That does not mean the next man will not be right for us , thats football.

[Ian.]

We need a reincarnation of Sir Graham Taylor, a hard talking no nonsense manager who will come in and drag the club back in the right direction.
It is quite obvious that we don't have problems just on the playing front. The club back in '87 was a mess, but I don't think we are anywhere near as bad as then. We need to replace PF with a football/money man. I have no idea who that is but this PF seems a joke.

I thought Lambert was stronger minded than this, but something has gone within himself. The problem is there are not many candidates out there who have the bollocks to come in and tell Randy it is not just a problem on the pitch. Well if they did he would not employ them anyway.

We seem doomed.

[Risso]

We need a reincarnation of Sir Graham Taylor, a hard talking no nonsense manager who will come in and drag the club back in the right direction.
It is quite obvious that we don't have problems just on the playing front. The club back in '87 was a mess, but I don't think we are anywhere near as bad as then. We need to replace PF with a football/money man. I have no idea who that is but this PF seems a joke.

I thought Lambert was stronger minded than this, but something has gone within himself. The problem is there are not many candidates out there who have the bollocks to come in and tell Randy it is not just a problem on the pitch. Well if they did he would not employ them anyway.

We seem doomed.

I first had my doubts about him when he came out with that line about there being no difference in how he treated the team if we won or lost.  I can't see winners like Ferguson taking a similar stance somehow.

[eastie]

We need a reincarnation of Sir Graham Taylor, a hard talking no nonsense manager who will come in and drag the club back in the right direction.
It is quite obvious that we don't have problems just on the playing front. The club back in '87 was a mess, but I don't think we are anywhere near as bad as then. We need to replace PF with a football/money man. I have no idea who that is but this PF seems a joke.

I thought Lambert was stronger minded than this, but something has gone within himself. The problem is there are not many candidates out there who have the bollocks to come in and tell Randy it is not just a problem on the pitch. Well if they did he would not employ them anyway.

We seem doomed.

Yes a taylor like figure in the boardroom , and  a taylor like manager too- but with an owner as clueless as lerner who would indeed want to come.

[rob_bridge]

Development??

@7govscott: @PeteSmithBBC hearing that Lambert could be replaced by Glenn Roeder tomorrow! If correct that would be an incredible appointment by #AVFC

Glen Roeder- well he has one relegation already  I suppose

Certainly a joe kinnear type of appointment if it did happen but to be honest roeder couldnt do worse than this guy - do it and lets move on - with lambert we are dead and buried.

And then who at the start of next season? And then who after 4 months when we are mid table in the Championship. And then who when we don't make the playoffs.

We are going down unless we reincarnate Stein and Clough in the next few days.

If you have the right man you keep him, but if you have the  wrong man you dont bury your head in the sand and pretend it will all be ok - it takes balls to admit it was a mistake , but randy must show those balls and we move on with a new man - you cant keep sacking managers but when someone fucks up as spectacularly as lambert has then action has be taken fast .

Fair point but you didn't answer my question(s), the 1-2m on compensation notwithstanding.

Who after Roeder (if it is him) or Sid and then who after him (Megson?) and who after him because that will be the reality (ala Coventry, Leicester and Sheff Wed) shy on the Premier Season ending now.

£2m compensation or a loss of £70m plus in tv rights ?  Get rid !
As for who in the summer , we will deal with that at the time , gus poyet ?
If we get the right man we will keep him - lambert has been a disaster , he is clearly the wrong man and must go .
That does not mean the next man will not be right for us , thats football.

If we get the right man is - like the last 3.

We dealt with 'the summer' the last 2/3 summers

There is a huge assumption that whoever replaces him will keep us up. I don't think that will happen based on who we could realistically get in.

Poyet - yep this season's Lambert/Adkins/Rodgers. He won't come now and I doubt he will come in the summer.

Personally I think he has done very well at Brighton. No way would he join us now - likely he could get a Top League job in the summer with a stable club not the poisoned chalice car crash that is Villa at the moment.

Roeder, Megson, Phil Browne or Curbs/RDM if we are lucky. maybe one of them could keep us up. I doubt it.

[eastie]

The point is though rob as you say maybe one of those could keep us up, i dont think lambert could though.
Hindsight is a great thing , maybe somewhere there is a laudrup type manager out there - as you rightly point out though we are not exactly an attractive proposition and who of any quality would want the job ?

Maybe we could attract someone short term now such as magath or rikjeaerd on a huge financial bonus for keeping us up , who knows , but this situation cannot continue.

[Phil from the upper holte]

They know Glen as well don't they from when he was scouting

[eastie]

They know Glen as well don't they from when he was scouting

Bit dour but a good organiser and with good contacts in the game - not inspiring but beggars cant be choosers.

[Bottom Right 89]

I like Paul Lambert and wanted him to succeed like most of us did but enough is enough, if we have any chance of turning this round he has to be removed today. The board are not backing him in the transfer market so we are stuck with the players we have already and they need a lift from somewhere. A new man would freshen up the training, maybe give confidence to players not performing and possibly get us the wins we need to stay up. They might spot a player in the reserves (Carruthers?) that Lambert has overlooked to galvanise the team similar to what SGT did with Tommy Hitz. If they did it today we'd have two training sessions before the Newcastle game, has to be done if they do nothing we're finished.

[mr-villa]

He's going nowhere. We are. Down. Goodnight.

He's going nowhere.  We are not down, there are still 15 league games to play for Christ sake, that's 40% of the league programme.  Good Morning.

[eastie]

He's going nowhere. We are. Down. Goodnight.

He's going nowhere.  We are not down, there are still 15 league games to play for Christ sake, that's 40% of the league programme.  Good Morning.

Just enough time then for someone to come in and possibly save us .