Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[PaulWinch again]

What we need is investment from the owner and if we don't get that we're fucked.

[not3bad]

Glenn Hoddle?!  Piss on a pogo stick!!

[Jarpie]

Hoddle would probably send players to consult that faith healer .

[wookster]

I have a gripe with the blind loyalty that managers have with their back room staff.  When they arrive at a club they sack en block the experienced staff as they are to be replaced with their buddies.
Prior to a season at Norwich, what premiership experience do PLs coaches have?  We always associate the playing deficiencies with the manager, why do they never sack the coaches? Chairmen hire the managers, why don't they go for the best coaches?

[django]

I have a gripe with the blind loyalty that managers have with their back room staff.  When they arrive at a club they sack en block the experienced staff as they are to be replaced with their buddies.
Prior to a season at Norwich, what premiership experience do PLs coaches have?  We always associate the playing deficiencies with the manager, why do they never sack the coaches? Chairmen hire the managers, why don't they go for the best coaches?

Yeah, this is something I've been thinking about. A lot of people say the sort of "Martin Laursen would show em how to defend a corner" type stuff, but there may be something in it. If we can't freshen up the playing staff, maybe a change or addition on the coaching side would help. Surely it can't hurt.

For the record I voted Lambert in on Tuesday and think i'll stick with that. I get the points about his tactical naivety the other night and in recent games but, if we can't get a Gus Hiddink type A-list manager in (we can't), and we can't sign some players (don't think we can) then I think we have to just cross our fingers and go with it.
I think a lot of our problems are bigger than Lambert and bigger than Lerner even. We got lumbered with a load of over paid and under performing players on long contracts as the market changed and we're paying the price. A lot of outside observers say, get Ireland and some of the higher earners out and rebuild, but that's not an option if no one want's them. There are a whole lot of things that Lerner/Faulkner/All Randy's managers/the players.. have done wrong but the poisonous situation we find ourselves in is bigger than anything they have individually done wrong. 

[Rip Van We Go Again]

To be honest, i've never been too comfortable with his 'no wingers policy'

[Chris Smith]

To be honest, i've never been too comfortable with his 'no wingers policy'

Other than Stoke and West Ham, who does play with traditional wingers these days. There are players who will get wide at times during the game but will also have to tuck in at others. 

[Clark W Griswold]

To be honest, i've never been too comfortable with his 'no wingers policy'

Personally i'm very uncomfortable with his 'no clue policy'. Especially when he puts 5 cunting strikers on the field in one go and with about half an hour of the game left.

[old man villa fan]

To be honest, i've never been too comfortable with his 'no wingers policy'

Other than Stoke and West Ham, who does play with traditional wingers these days. There are players who will get wide at times during the game but will also have to tuck in at others. 

You're right but I would add Man Utd as well.

The problem we have is the movement off the ball and switching position does not happen with our players.  It is not just this season either, it has been going on for years.  It has been disguised by the fact we have had some very good players that could make a counter-attacking game work.

[old man villa fan]

I'll vote on the 1st February. Buy some players and I'll go for in. Maintain the status quo and I'll go for out. But what difference would it make then as we'll be down, down, deeper and down...

Indeed, one of the compelling factors in voting out is the idea that they might get someone in quick enough for us to make a signing or 2 before the window closes, if they're not going to back lambert then they'd have to back a new guy.

Do you really think it's feasible to sack a manger on 24th January and for a replacement to be recruited, appointed and him assess the squad and identify reinforcements in time to make signings by the 31st?

Can you see the glaring weakness in our squad?  If you can so can an experienced manager.  We need an big strong central defender to command the box and a big bustling midfielder to give us some drive and battle in there.

If he went today we'd have to have a new guy in by tuesday so he could spend wednesday and thursday on the phone.

Other clubs have replaced their manager in that timescale so it's perfectly feasible.

Sorry Paul, but to me that timetable is unrealistic. If they're in work it will take more than 4 days to prize them away, even if they were interested in a job with a life expectancy of 6 months if things don't go to plan immediately. So, who is out of work that might do a better job, who might be interested in coming and who we can afford?

Southampton have just replaced their manager in 1 day and are being linked with a 10m brazilian wonderkid within a week, so not only is it a reasonably realistic timescale I can back it up with a very recent example.

As for asking who to replace him with, I have no idea but there's plenty of managers out there who'd love a shot in a the premier league.

Their new manager had been lined up weeks ago and it was unfortunate for their Board that they picked up two good results but they had already set their stall out.  Also, their new manager had that Brazilian player on loan at Espanyol so he knows all about him.

I'd love to have a shot at managing Villa but it does not mean that I would be any good.

[mike]

To be honest, i've never been too comfortable with his 'no wingers policy'

Personally i'm very uncomfortable with his 'no clue policy'. Especially when he puts 5 cunting strikers on the field in one go and with about half an hour of the game left.

I hate profanity and one could argue this is rather simplistic. However, fucking spot on.

[Dave Cooper please]

If we sack Lambert now I can guarantee that he'll be picked up very quickly and will do extremely well at a Premier League club with a chairman who backs him.
You can save this and quote it back at me if you like!

What, like Owen Coyle has?

What has Owen Coyle got to do with anything?

[David_Nab]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-boss-paul-lambert-1240993

Paul Lambert has confirmed he will retain his job even if Villa are relegated – and claims Randy Lerner’s vote of confidence has strengthened his resolve to keep the club up.

Lambert revealed the chairman had pledged to stand by him even if the doomsday scenario occurs and the claret and blues slide from the Premier League into the Championship.

The bold show of support from the Villa Park board comes after Lambert jetted to America to meet the owner last week and takes the mounting pressure off the manager.

But, despite his own position being secure, the 43-year-old Scot insists he is more concerned about Villa’s survival and insists saving the club remains his top priority.

Villa visit Championship club Millwall in the FA Cup fourth round this evening, aiming to restore confidence from their Capital One Cup semi-final shocker against Bradford, before resuming their Premier League survival struggle against relegation rivals Newcastle at Villa Park on Tuesday.

Asked if Lerner had told him directly that his job was safe ‘regardless of what might happen’ this season, Lambert replied: “Yes, just the other day.”

When it was suggested to him that it was a big call for the chairman to make, given that many managers had been sacked much quicker and for less damaging results, the Villa boss joked: “It’s amazing what 20 quid can do to somebody.

“As I’ve said before he’s been great with me. Listen, nobody wants to go down at all. None whatsoever. We have to get through this season and win some games.

“There will be a few other clubs in the exact same position as us thinking we could be in trouble here.

“But that’s the relationship I have with the manager. I get on really well with him.

“It’s his club and we are trying to do our best for it, trying to get it rebuilt down the path we want to go down.

“He has been really good.”

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Aston Villa: The footballing world reacts to Bradford defeat
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Asked if Lerner’s reassurances gave him a lift after the batterings Villa have taken this season, Lambert replied: “Yes, but I’ve never been caught up in the furore.”

Lambert, who also revealed there was little prospect of incoming transfers this month, insists Lerner’s faith in him will not lead to complacency during the relegation battle.

“I don’t want to sit here and feel easy about that and think ‘do you know what? We keep getting beat, but I’m safe’,’’ he said.

“I don’t think like that, you still worry like hell about things and you still have that sick feeling in your stomach.

“I don’t sit there and think ‘because the chairman said you’re job’s safe so it doesn’t matter about results’. I still feel like c***.”

Lambert also confirmed he took time away from the training ground a week ago, between the Southampton and West Brom matches, to fly to New York to see the chairman last week.

“I went out there to get some sun,’’ he added. “It was an open invitation anyway, whether it was the start of the season or now.

“I never found time to go out before. I went out there for a couple of days, just for a chat and it was good to see New York for a couple of days.

 

[mike]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-boss-paul-lambert-1240993

Paul Lambert has confirmed he will retain his job even if Villa are relegated – and claims Randy Lerner’s vote of confidence has strengthened his resolve to keep the club up.

Lambert revealed the chairman had pledged to stand by him even if the doomsday scenario occurs and the claret and blues slide from the Premier League into the Championship.

The bold show of support from the Villa Park board comes after Lambert jetted to America to meet the owner last week and takes the mounting pressure off the manager.

But, despite his own position being secure, the 43-year-old Scot insists he is more concerned about Villa’s survival and insists saving the club remains his top priority.

Villa visit Championship club Millwall in the FA Cup fourth round this evening, aiming to restore confidence from their Capital One Cup semi-final shocker against Bradford, before resuming their Premier League survival struggle against relegation rivals Newcastle at Villa Park on Tuesday.

Asked if Lerner had told him directly that his job was safe ‘regardless of what might happen’ this season, Lambert replied: “Yes, just the other day.”

When it was suggested to him that it was a big call for the chairman to make, given that many managers had been sacked much quicker and for less damaging results, the Villa boss joked: “It’s amazing what 20 quid can do to somebody.

“As I’ve said before he’s been great with me. Listen, nobody wants to go down at all. None whatsoever. We have to get through this season and win some games.

“There will be a few other clubs in the exact same position as us thinking we could be in trouble here.

“But that’s the relationship I have with the manager. I get on really well with him.

“It’s his club and we are trying to do our best for it, trying to get it rebuilt down the path we want to go down.

“He has been really good.”

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Aston Villa: The footballing world reacts to Bradford defeat
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Asked if Lerner’s reassurances gave him a lift after the batterings Villa have taken this season, Lambert replied: “Yes, but I’ve never been caught up in the furore.”

Lambert, who also revealed there was little prospect of incoming transfers this month, insists Lerner’s faith in him will not lead to complacency during the relegation battle.

“I don’t want to sit here and feel easy about that and think ‘do you know what? We keep getting beat, but I’m safe’,’’ he said.

“I don’t think like that, you still worry like hell about things and you still have that sick feeling in your stomach.

“I don’t sit there and think ‘because the chairman said you’re job’s safe so it doesn’t matter about results’. I still feel like c***.”

Lambert also confirmed he took time away from the training ground a week ago, between the Southampton and West Brom matches, to fly to New York to see the chairman last week.

“I went out there to get some sun,’’ he added. “It was an open invitation anyway, whether it was the start of the season or now.

“I never found time to go out before. I went out there for a couple of days, just for a chat and it was good to see New York for a couple of days.

 

Breathtaking. Complacency, irrelevance, obstinacy, refusal to face facts and many other reasons we're where we are. It really is Comical Ali 'I see no tanks' stuff. Say what you like about Lambert, I think he gives exactly as much of a fuck about our club as Lerner. By the time his contract is up he has earned the equivalent of a lottery win, what does it matter if he never works again.

[achilles]

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-boss-paul-lambert-1240993

Paul Lambert has confirmed he will retain his job even if Villa are relegated – and claims Randy Lerner’s vote of confidence has strengthened his resolve to keep the club up.

Lambert revealed the chairman had pledged to stand by him even if the doomsday scenario occurs and the claret and blues slide from the Premier League into the Championship.

The bold show of support from the Villa Park board comes after Lambert jetted to America to meet the owner last week and takes the mounting pressure off the manager.

But, despite his own position being secure, the 43-year-old Scot insists he is more concerned about Villa’s survival and insists saving the club remains his top priority.

Villa visit Championship club Millwall in the FA Cup fourth round this evening, aiming to restore confidence from their Capital One Cup semi-final shocker against Bradford, before resuming their Premier League survival struggle against relegation rivals Newcastle at Villa Park on Tuesday.

Asked if Lerner had told him directly that his job was safe ‘regardless of what might happen’ this season, Lambert replied: “Yes, just the other day.”

When it was suggested to him that it was a big call for the chairman to make, given that many managers had been sacked much quicker and for less damaging results, the Villa boss joked: “It’s amazing what 20 quid can do to somebody.

“As I’ve said before he’s been great with me. Listen, nobody wants to go down at all. None whatsoever. We have to get through this season and win some games.

“There will be a few other clubs in the exact same position as us thinking we could be in trouble here.

“But that’s the relationship I have with the manager. I get on really well with him.

“It’s his club and we are trying to do our best for it, trying to get it rebuilt down the path we want to go down.

“He has been really good.”

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Aston Villa: The footballing world reacts to Bradford defeat
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Asked if Lerner’s reassurances gave him a lift after the batterings Villa have taken this season, Lambert replied: “Yes, but I’ve never been caught up in the furore.”

Lambert, who also revealed there was little prospect of incoming transfers this month, insists Lerner’s faith in him will not lead to complacency during the relegation battle.

“I don’t want to sit here and feel easy about that and think ‘do you know what? We keep getting beat, but I’m safe’,’’ he said.

“I don’t think like that, you still worry like hell about things and you still have that sick feeling in your stomach.

“I don’t sit there and think ‘because the chairman said you’re job’s safe so it doesn’t matter about results’. I still feel like c***.”

Lambert also confirmed he took time away from the training ground a week ago, between the Southampton and West Brom matches, to fly to New York to see the chairman last week.

“I went out there to get some sun,’’ he added. “It was an open invitation anyway, whether it was the start of the season or now.

“I never found time to go out before. I went out there for a couple of days, just for a chat and it was good to see New York for a couple of days.

 

Breathtaking. Complacency, irrelevance, obstinacy, refusal to face facts and many other reasons we're where we are. It really is Comical Ali 'I see no tanks' stuff. Say what you like about Lambert, I think he gives exactly as much of a fuck about our club as Lerner. By the time his contract is up he has earned the equivalent of a lottery win, what does it matter if he never works again.

That article is unbelievable and I agree with Mike's comments... just shoot me and put me out of my misery!