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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 847871 times)

Online Chris Smith

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2670 on: January 24, 2013, 01:03:10 PM »
I'll vote on the 1st February. Buy some players and I'll go for in. Maintain the status quo and I'll go for out. But what difference would it make then as we'll be down, down, deeper and down...

Indeed, one of the compelling factors in voting out is the idea that they might get someone in quick enough for us to make a signing or 2 before the window closes, if they're not going to back lambert then they'd have to back a new guy.

Do you really think it's feasible to sack a manger on 24th January and for a replacement to be recruited, appointed and him assess the squad and identify reinforcements in time to make signings by the 31st?
Southampton could do it

They did it a week ago but the speed of the appointment suggested it had been weeks in the planning.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2671 on: January 24, 2013, 01:11:07 PM »
I'll vote on the 1st February. Buy some players and I'll go for in. Maintain the status quo and I'll go for out. But what difference would it make then as we'll be down, down, deeper and down...

Indeed, one of the compelling factors in voting out is the idea that they might get someone in quick enough for us to make a signing or 2 before the window closes, if they're not going to back lambert then they'd have to back a new guy.

Do you really think it's feasible to sack a manger on 24th January and for a replacement to be recruited, appointed and him assess the squad and identify reinforcements in time to make signings by the 31st?

Can you see the glaring weakness in our squad?  If you can so can an experienced manager.  We need an big strong central defender to command the box and a big bustling midfielder to give us some drive and battle in there.

If he went today we'd have to have a new guy in by tuesday so he could spend wednesday and thursday on the phone.

Other clubs have replaced their manager in that timescale so it's perfectly feasible.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2672 on: January 24, 2013, 01:19:42 PM »
I'll vote on the 1st February. Buy some players and I'll go for in. Maintain the status quo and I'll go for out. But what difference would it make then as we'll be down, down, deeper and down...

Indeed, one of the compelling factors in voting out is the idea that they might get someone in quick enough for us to make a signing or 2 before the window closes, if they're not going to back lambert then they'd have to back a new guy.

Do you really think it's feasible to sack a manger on 24th January and for a replacement to be recruited, appointed and him assess the squad and identify reinforcements in time to make signings by the 31st?

Can you see the glaring weakness in our squad?  If you can so can an experienced manager.  We need an big strong central defender to command the box and a big bustling midfielder to give us some drive and battle in there.

If he went today we'd have to have a new guy in by tuesday so he could spend wednesday and thursday on the phone.

Other clubs have replaced their manager in that timescale so it's perfectly feasible.

Sorry Paul, but to me that timetable is unrealistic. If they're in work it will take more than 4 days to prize them away, even if they were interested in a job with a life expectancy of 6 months if things don't go to plan immediately. So, who is out of work that might do a better job, who might be interested in coming and who we can afford?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2673 on: January 24, 2013, 02:05:16 PM »
I'll vote on the 1st February. Buy some players and I'll go for in. Maintain the status quo and I'll go for out. But what difference would it make then as we'll be down, down, deeper and down...

Indeed, one of the compelling factors in voting out is the idea that they might get someone in quick enough for us to make a signing or 2 before the window closes, if they're not going to back lambert then they'd have to back a new guy.

Do you really think it's feasible to sack a manger on 24th January and for a replacement to be recruited, appointed and him assess the squad and identify reinforcements in time to make signings by the 31st?

Can you see the glaring weakness in our squad?  If you can so can an experienced manager.  We need an big strong central defender to command the box and a big bustling midfielder to give us some drive and battle in there.

If he went today we'd have to have a new guy in by tuesday so he could spend wednesday and thursday on the phone.

Other clubs have replaced their manager in that timescale so it's perfectly feasible.

Sorry Paul, but to me that timetable is unrealistic. If they're in work it will take more than 4 days to prize them away, even if they were interested in a job with a life expectancy of 6 months if things don't go to plan immediately. So, who is out of work that might do a better job, who might be interested in coming and who we can afford?

Gary Megson (Except for the better job bit)

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2674 on: January 24, 2013, 02:08:16 PM »
No point no manager is going to have funds to improve the squad.

Also has been told job is safe,after losing to Soton.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2675 on: January 24, 2013, 03:02:11 PM »
I see simon grayson has ben sacked this afternoon - pity it wasnt lambert .

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2676 on: January 24, 2013, 03:04:04 PM »
I'll vote on the 1st February. Buy some players and I'll go for in. Maintain the status quo and I'll go for out. But what difference would it make then as we'll be down, down, deeper and down...

Indeed, one of the compelling factors in voting out is the idea that they might get someone in quick enough for us to make a signing or 2 before the window closes, if they're not going to back lambert then they'd have to back a new guy.

Do you really think it's feasible to sack a manger on 24th January and for a replacement to be recruited, appointed and him assess the squad and identify reinforcements in time to make signings by the 31st?

Can you see the glaring weakness in our squad?  If you can so can an experienced manager.  We need an big strong central defender to command the box and a big bustling midfielder to give us some drive and battle in there.

If he went today we'd have to have a new guy in by tuesday so he could spend wednesday and thursday on the phone.

Other clubs have replaced their manager in that timescale so it's perfectly feasible.

Sorry Paul, but to me that timetable is unrealistic. If they're in work it will take more than 4 days to prize them away, even if they were interested in a job with a life expectancy of 6 months if things don't go to plan immediately. So, who is out of work that might do a better job, who might be interested in coming and who we can afford?

Southampton have just replaced their manager in 1 day and are being linked with a 10m brazilian wonderkid within a week, so not only is it a reasonably realistic timescale I can back it up with a very recent example.

As for asking who to replace him with, I have no idea but there's plenty of managers out there who'd love a shot in a the premier league.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2677 on: January 24, 2013, 03:06:53 PM »
I'll vote on the 1st February. Buy some players and I'll go for in. Maintain the status quo and I'll go for out. But what difference would it make then as we'll be down, down, deeper and down...

Indeed, one of the compelling factors in voting out is the idea that they might get someone in quick enough for us to make a signing or 2 before the window closes, if they're not going to back lambert then they'd have to back a new guy.

Do you really think it's feasible to sack a manger on 24th January and for a replacement to be recruited, appointed and him assess the squad and identify reinforcements in time to make signings by the 31st?

Can you see the glaring weakness in our squad?  If you can so can an experienced manager.  We need an big strong central defender to command the box and a big bustling midfielder to give us some drive and battle in there.

If he went today we'd have to have a new guy in by tuesday so he could spend wednesday and thursday on the phone.

Other clubs have replaced their manager in that timescale so it's perfectly feasible.

Sorry Paul, but to me that timetable is unrealistic. If they're in work it will take more than 4 days to prize them away, even if they were interested in a job with a life expectancy of 6 months if things don't go to plan immediately. So, who is out of work that might do a better job, who might be interested in coming and who we can afford?

Southampton have just replaced their manager in 1 day and are being linked with a 10m brazilian wonderkid within a week, so not only is it a reasonably realistic timescale I can back it up with a very recent example.

As for asking who to replace him with, I have no idea but there's plenty of managers out there who'd love a shot in a the premier league.

My hope is that randy is lining up a replacement now and is about to fire lambert - my fear is that we continue as we are and go again .
Depressing times indeed.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2678 on: January 24, 2013, 03:12:44 PM »
I'll vote on the 1st February. Buy some players and I'll go for in. Maintain the status quo and I'll go for out. But what difference would it make then as we'll be down, down, deeper and down...

Indeed, one of the compelling factors in voting out is the idea that they might get someone in quick enough for us to make a signing or 2 before the window closes, if they're not going to back lambert then they'd have to back a new guy.

Do you really think it's feasible to sack a manger on 24th January and for a replacement to be recruited, appointed and him assess the squad and identify reinforcements in time to make signings by the 31st?

Can you see the glaring weakness in our squad?  If you can so can an experienced manager.  We need an big strong central defender to command the box and a big bustling midfielder to give us some drive and battle in there.

If he went today we'd have to have a new guy in by tuesday so he could spend wednesday and thursday on the phone.

Other clubs have replaced their manager in that timescale so it's perfectly feasible.

Sorry Paul, but to me that timetable is unrealistic. If they're in work it will take more than 4 days to prize them away, even if they were interested in a job with a life expectancy of 6 months if things don't go to plan immediately. So, who is out of work that might do a better job, who might be interested in coming and who we can afford?

Southampton have just replaced their manager in 1 day and are being linked with a 10m brazilian wonderkid within a week, so not only is it a reasonably realistic timescale I can back it up with a very recent example.

As for asking who to replace him with, I have no idea but there's plenty of managers out there who'd love a shot in a the premier league.

My hope is that randy is lining up a replacement now and is about to fire lambert - my fear is that we continue as we are and go again .
Depressing times indeed.

Maybe Lerner is trying to play "Chicken" with Lambert and force him to resign rather than firing and waits till weekend if he loses to Millwall to resign.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2679 on: January 24, 2013, 03:14:52 PM »
I notice that Huddersfield have sacked Simon Grayson,this is a manager who got Huddersfield promototed last season.They sit 7 ponts above the drop zone with plenty of games to play,Although I can understand peoples reasons for wanting to keep him.I also feel slightly embarrassed with our complete and utter lack of ambition when I see managers being sacked when our own manager is performing much worse, this is what I find the most hurtful is the message that it sends out,that this is good enough for Villa.It isn't and I believe it sends out the message that we have given up




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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2680 on: January 24, 2013, 03:19:22 PM »
I see simon grayson has ben sacked this afternoon - pity it wasnt lambert .

See the Huddersfield chairman's quote, seems somewhat relevant to VP, except PL has more forgiving chairman and owner.

"After exceeding all our expectations in the early part of the season, our results and performances as a team and from individual players have tailed off alarmingly. Worsening displays have accompanied a run of just six points and no wins from the last 12 league games, including some very heavy defeats, culminating at Watford last Saturday.
"Whilst we would all have hoped for even some modest signs of improvement to begin to emerge as the weeks have passed that has not been the case. This has made the position untenable. We will now seek to recruit a new first team manager who can, in the short term, lead and reinvigorate the team and players for the remainder of this season and also drive us forward towards our long term aims."

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2681 on: January 24, 2013, 03:21:41 PM »
I see simon grayson has ben sacked this afternoon - pity it wasnt lambert .

See the Huddersfield chairman's quote, seems somewhat relevant to VP, except PL has more forgiving chairman and owner.

"After exceeding all our expectations in the early part of the season, our results and performances as a team and from individual players have tailed off alarmingly. Worsening displays have accompanied a run of just six points and no wins from the last 12 league games, including some very heavy defeats, culminating at Watford last Saturday.
"Whilst we would all have hoped for even some modest signs of improvement to begin to emerge as the weeks have passed that has not been the case. This has made the position untenable. We will now seek to recruit a new first team manager who can, in the short term, lead and reinvigorate the team and players for the remainder of this season and also drive us forward towards our long term aims."

Maybe he'll be our new manager

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2682 on: January 24, 2013, 03:24:25 PM »
Outs have a very slim majority.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2683 on: January 24, 2013, 03:25:24 PM »
I see simon grayson has ben sacked this afternoon - pity it wasnt lambert .

See the Huddersfield chairman's quote, seems somewhat relevant to VP, except PL has more forgiving chairman and owner.

"After exceeding all our expectations in the early part of the season, our results and performances as a team and from individual players have tailed off alarmingly. Worsening displays have accompanied a run of just six points and no wins from the last 12 league games, including some very heavy defeats, culminating at Watford last Saturday.
"Whilst we would all have hoped for even some modest signs of improvement to begin to emerge as the weeks have passed that has not been the case. This has made the position untenable. We will now seek to recruit a new first team manager who can, in the short term, lead and reinvigorate the team and players for the remainder of this season and also drive us forward towards our long term aims."

Maybe he'll be our new manager
This is exactly the statement that should have been out on the OS weeks ago.We might still be in a final now,Apart from the bit about exceeding our expectaion at the early part of the season of course

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2684 on: January 24, 2013, 03:27:18 PM »
I notice that Huddersfield have sacked Simon Grayson,this is a manager who got Huddersfield promototed last season.They sit 7 ponts above the drop zone with plenty of games to play,Although I can understand peoples reasons for wanting to keep him.I also feel slightly embarrassed with our complete and utter lack of ambition when I see managers being sacked when our own manager is performing much worse, this is what I find the most hurtful is the message that it sends out,that this is good enough for Villa.It isn't and I believe it sends out the message that we have given up





That's a weird reading of the situation. We have changed manager for 3 consecutive seasons; it hasn't helped. What makes you think that if we did it now it would somehow be different this time?

If the new bloke you want doesn't improve things will you be calling for his head in the summer? What about next season, if things aren't immediately better - do we go through another two managers?

Enough is enough, we need stability not more upheaval.

 


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