Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[Risso]

I don't think sacking the manager does anything. A lot of the players aren't good enough, we can't keep changing the manager every year. Lerner needs to open his fucking wallet and get a brain.

To be fair he opened his wallet in the summer.  What other teams spent £25m?  Lambert just identified the entirely wrong sort of players.  While we were spunking £7m on the likes of the fuckawful KEA and Bennett, Swansea were snapping up Michu for £2m.

[pauliewalnuts]

Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.

I'm struggling to think of a manager who'd be worse. Poss Les Reed the ill fated failure at Charlton, Venglos, McNeill or McLeish.

PL is taking us down, that's bad enough.

Why would McLeish be worse? He never had the support of the fans, was thrown to the wolves by the board and didn't get backed in the January window by Lerner who sat at the back while he took all the flak.

Lambert tries to win matches, and fails.

McLeish didn't even try to win matches.

That's the difference. I don't give a shit he managed Small Heath, not a flying one, but although I've been embarassed by some of our results this season, last year I was even more embarassed by the horribly negative way our manager sent us out. That was way more humiliating.

I don't think I've ever been more embarassed of our club than i was at Spurs away last year.

[PaulWinch again]

Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.

I'm struggling to think of a manager who'd be worse. Poss Les Reed the ill fated failure at Charlton, Venglos, McNeill or McLeish.

PL is taking us down, that's bad enough.

Why would McLeish be worse? He never had the support of the fans, was thrown to the wolves by the board and didn't get backed in the January window by Lerner who sat at the back while he took all the flak.

Lambert tries to win matches, and fails.

McLeish didn't even try to win matches.

That's the difference. I don't give a shit he managed Small Heath, not a flying one, but although I've been embarassed by some of our results this season, last year I was even more embarassed by the horribly negative way our manager sent us out. That was way more humiliating.

I don't think I've ever been more embarassed of our club than i was at Spurs away last year.

Agree, which is why I still don't want Lambert gone.

[OCD]

Still in for me. You can't keep sacking managers, paying up their contracts, paying for a new guy to come in, use a season for them to work with a squad to see what he has to work with and then starting the process all over again. A big rebuild job was needed last summer than he realised and we might have to bite the bullet and rebuild from the Championship but it's insane to keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't think sacking the manager does anything. A lot of the players aren't good enough, we can't keep changing the manager every year. Lerner needs to open his fucking wallet and get a brain.

To be fair he opened his wallet in the summer.  What other teams spent £25m?  Lambert just identified the entirely wrong sort of players.  While we were spunking £7m on the likes of the fuckawful KEA and Bennett, Swansea were snapping up Michu for £2m.

Fair point, but in picking on Michu, you're picking on one of the finest transfer swoops of the last 10 years. It's not like everyone was identifying bargains like that whilst we were poking around the third division, is it?

I can't even point at that many of PL's purchases and say they were shit.

Westwood, Benteke, Lowton, it's hard to see how you can label all of them as rubbish. Same with Vlaar.

If there was a problem with his purchases, it was that the balance between youth and experience was wrong, but I suspect the need to not take on high earners had a lot to do with that.

[Risso]

I don't think I've ever been more embarassed of our club than i was at Spurs away last year.

That was awful, but this current run of matches is more humiliating by a factor of about a million.  I can't walk into town without meeting at least five people taking the piss out of how bad we are, and probably get about as many piss taking messages on Facebook everyday.  We're a national disgrace and laughing stock at the moment.

[PeterWithesShin]

Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.

I'm struggling to think of a manager who'd be worse. Poss Les Reed the ill fated failure at Charlton, Venglos, McNeill or McLeish.

PL is taking us down, that's bad enough.

Why would McLeish be worse? He never had the support of the fans, was thrown to the wolves by the board and didn't get backed in the January window by Lerner who sat at the back while he took all the flak.

Lambert tries to win matches, and fails.

McLeish didn't even try to win matches.

That's the difference. I don't give a shit he managed Small Heath, not a flying one, but although I've been embarassed by some of our results this season, last year I was even more embarassed by the horribly negative way our manager sent us out. That was way more humiliating.

I don't think I've ever been more embarassed of our club than i was at Spurs away last year.

Bang on. The line-up at Spurs was far more humiliating than the 8-0 at Chelsea for me. Bolton reserves at home in the league cup, wasn't it about the 90th minute when we had our first proper effort on goal?

We may be failing but at least we're trying to win games this season. I doubt Lambert would be punching the air in celebration over a point at home to fucking Stoke.

[Dave Clark Five]

Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.

I'm struggling to think of a manager who'd be worse. Poss Les Reed the ill fated failure at Charlton, Venglos, McNeill or McLeish.

PL is taking us down, that's bad enough.

Why would McLeish be worse? He never had the support of the fans, was thrown to the wolves by the board and didn't get backed in the January window by Lerner who sat at the back while he took all the flak.

Lambert tries to win matches, and fails.

McLeish didn't even try to win matches.

That's the difference. I don't give a shit he managed Small Heath, not a flying one, but although I've been embarassed by some of our results this season, last year I was even more embarassed by the horribly negative way our manager sent us out. That was way more humiliating.

I don't think I've ever been more embarassed of our club than i was at Spurs away last year.

We aren't even negative now. We just don't give a fuck. Were you embarrassed at Chelsea and Bradford?

[pauliewalnuts]

I don't think I've ever been more embarassed of our club than i was at Spurs away last year.

That was awful, but this current run of matches is more humiliating by a factor of about a million.  I can't walk into town without meeting at least five people taking the piss out of how bad we are, and probably get about as many piss taking messages on Facebook everyday.  We're a national disgrace and laughing stock at the moment.

Really? Fuck me, you must have a different set of values to me,

I can think of loads of runs of matches when we've got shit results and I've put up with piss taking when it has gone badly, but that surrender at White Hart Lane was truly humiliating. It was us clearly not even trying.

At least now we're trying. I can't believe you think the current run is worse, let alone "a million times worse".

[VillaAlways]

Still in for me. You can't keep sacking managers, paying up their contracts, paying for a new guy to come in, use a season for them to work with a squad to see what he has to work with and then starting the process all over again. A big rebuild job was needed last summer than he realised and we might have to bite the bullet and rebuild from the Championship but it's insane to keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

If we get relegated I'm sure we will be floundering in the bottom half like Blackburn,Bolton,Blues and Wolves.Just because we've sacked a few managers recently doesn't mean we should keep on a shit one

[Dave Clark Five]

Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.

I'm struggling to think of a manager who'd be worse. Poss Les Reed the ill fated failure at Charlton, Venglos, McNeill or McLeish.

PL is taking us down, that's bad enough.

Why would McLeish be worse? He never had the support of the fans, was thrown to the wolves by the board and didn't get backed in the January window by Lerner who sat at the back while he took all the flak.

Lambert tries to win matches, and fails.

McLeish didn't even try to win matches.

That's the difference. I don't give a shit he managed Small Heath, not a flying one, but although I've been embarassed by some of our results this season, last year I was even more embarassed by the horribly negative way our manager sent us out. That was way more humiliating.

I don't think I've ever been more embarassed of our club than i was at Spurs away last year.

Bang on. The line-up at Spurs was far more humiliating than the 8-0 at Chelsea for me. Bolton reserves at home in the league cup, wasn't it about the 90th minute when we had our first proper effort on goal?

We may be failing but at least we're trying to win games this season. I doubt Lambert would be punching the air in celebration over a point at home to fucking Stoke.

Clutching at straws now. Regardless of whether we were or weren't better under McLeish, this is pitiful. It couldn't be worse.

[saunders_heroes]

I don't think sacking the manager does anything. A lot of the players aren't good enough, we can't keep changing the manager every year. Lerner needs to open his fucking wallet and get a brain.

To be fair he opened his wallet in the summer.  What other teams spent £25m?  Lambert just identified the entirely wrong sort of players.  While we were spunking £7m on the likes of the fuckawful KEA and Bennett, Swansea were snapping up Michu for £2m.

We won't pay the wages for decent players though. That's why we have to look at lower league shit.

[pauliewalnuts]

Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.

I'm struggling to think of a manager who'd be worse. Poss Les Reed the ill fated failure at Charlton, Venglos, McNeill or McLeish.

PL is taking us down, that's bad enough.

Why would McLeish be worse? He never had the support of the fans, was thrown to the wolves by the board and didn't get backed in the January window by Lerner who sat at the back while he took all the flak.

Lambert tries to win matches, and fails.

McLeish didn't even try to win matches.

That's the difference. I don't give a shit he managed Small Heath, not a flying one, but although I've been embarassed by some of our results this season, last year I was even more embarassed by the horribly negative way our manager sent us out. That was way more humiliating.

I don't think I've ever been more embarassed of our club than i was at Spurs away last year.

We aren't even negative now. We just don't give a fuck. Were you embarrassed at Chelsea and Bradford?

Yes, I was embarassed, embarassed at the shitness of the performances, but at least we tried.

McLeish put out the most disgracefully negative Villa sides I think i've ever seen.

Like you, I have seen plenty of shit Villa sides, but I've seen none as embarassing as last year's. I got kind of sick of reading people saying we were an unambitious disgrace when there was absolutely no evidence to suggest we weren't.

I genuinely don't see how you can label MON - a man I have very little respect for - "evil" and then defend that shambolic embarassment McLeish.

[PeterWithesShin]

I don't think I've ever been more embarassed of our club than i was at Spurs away last year.

That was awful, but this current run of matches is more humiliating by a factor of about a million.  I can't walk into town without meeting at least five people taking the piss out of how bad we are, and probably get about as many piss taking messages on Facebook everyday.  We're a national disgrace and laughing stock at the moment.

Fuck 'em. To put it bluntly, who gives a shit what anyone else thinks?

[Risso]

I don't think sacking the manager does anything. A lot of the players aren't good enough, we can't keep changing the manager every year. Lerner needs to open his fucking wallet and get a brain.

To be fair he opened his wallet in the summer.  What other teams spent £25m?  Lambert just identified the entirely wrong sort of players.  While we were spunking £7m on the likes of the fuckawful KEA and Bennett, Swansea were snapping up Michu for £2m.

Fair point, but in picking on Michu, you're picking on one of the finest transfer swoops of the last 10 years. It's not like everyone was identifying bargains like that whilst we were poking around the third division, is it?

I can't even point at that many of PL's purchases and say they were shit.

Westwood, Benteke, Lowton, it's hard to see how you can label all of them as rubbish. Same with Vlaar.

If there was a problem with his purchases, it was that the balance between youth and experience was wrong, but I suspect the need to not take on high earners had a lot to do with that.

I didn't say that they were rubbish, just that they were the wrong type of players.  But at most, Lowton and Westwood are the best of a truly rotten side.  They still look like lower league players busting a gut to move up a level.  I wasn't impressed with Vlaar before he got injured, and Bennett and KEA are beyond awful.  But the fact is that a squad who just avoided relegation needed quality and experience, and he didn't buy a single player who matched that description.  And it isn't just Michu, Mirrallas at £5m is a bargain, Berbatov was £5m, Snodgrass at Norwich was £3m, Bassong was free, Pogrebnyak was free, Charlie Adam was £4m, NZonzi £3.5m, and the list goes on.  All good value players who have made an impact at their clubs this season, and who would have improved us no end.