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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848130 times)

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1575 on: January 12, 2013, 11:33:30 PM »
Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1576 on: January 12, 2013, 11:35:53 PM »
Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.


You can't think of a better manager than the man who has failed so miserably this season, who has given us so many humiliating results and cannot even instil basic organisation and confidence in the team?  He'd be more likely to take us straight back down to League 1 to be honest.  Still, at least you've stopped pretending that he's capable of keeping us up.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1577 on: January 12, 2013, 11:37:52 PM »
Riss. Your suggestions for his replacement weren't exactly inspiring.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1578 on: January 12, 2013, 11:39:00 PM »
Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.

I'm struggling to think of a manager who'd be worse. Poss Les Reed the ill fated failure at Charlton, Venglos, McNeill or McLeish.

PL is taking us down, that's bad enough.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1579 on: January 12, 2013, 11:44:25 PM »
Any manager who's spent less than 25m and kept his team in the premiership would be a good starting point. Doubt its a short list.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 11:48:51 PM by Greg N'Ash »

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1580 on: January 12, 2013, 11:44:32 PM »
We're a shambles but it's top of the club down. I don't think changing the manager will change anything.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1581 on: January 12, 2013, 11:45:05 PM »
I've been behind Lambert as, unlike McLeish, I thought he had the right idea and a plan that made sense, if implemented properly over time.  That said,, for the last 6 games or so Lambert has looked completely clueless in terms of tactics, formation, motivation, and ability to organise a defence.  We've made the same mistakes over and over again and look no closer to remedying them.   Many of us said from early on that selling or ostracising most of the experienced players on the books and relying on youngsters was a very risky strategy.  There have been times when we've looked okay but just lately we have relegation written all over us.  The defence are like rabbits in the headlights, the amount of ballwatching and headless chicken style ball chasing is almost comical.  Yet we don't seem to have anyone lined up to improve matters.

But I'm not convinced it's all Lambert's fault.  One wonders why sell Collins with Dunne still injured,Vlaar new to the league, and only Clark, Baker and Herd in reserve?  Why loan out Makoun again with Petrov out? Why discard Hutton and Warnock when, as poor as they can be, we don't have anyone better?  The obvious answer is to reduce the pressure on the wage bill.  Well fantastic business sense Randy, save 10m on the wage bill and rush headlong into losing 100m+ in future TV and PL revenues.  Fucking genius. 

Loaning Makoun out was our only real option due to his work permit issues. The rest I agree with, but we all thought they were good ideas at the start of the season. The majority of people on here were calling for Lambert, and there was a lot of 'sell the whole team and start again' towards the end of last season.

I don't think everyone thought they were good ideas, there were quite a few, including me, saying it was a high risk strategy, and pointing to the problems Houllier created for himself by trying to change too much too soon.   In the long term the likes of Collins, Hutton and Warnock are not the type of players I'd like to see representing Villa but in the short term they could have been of use.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1582 on: January 12, 2013, 11:46:36 PM »
Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.

I'm struggling to think of a manager who'd be worse. Poss Les Reed the ill fated failure at Charlton, Venglos, McNeill or McLeish.

PL is taking us down, that's bad enough.
Why would McLeish be worse? He never had the support of the fans, was thrown to the wolves by the board and didn't get backed in the January window by Lerner who sat at the back while he took all the flak.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1583 on: January 12, 2013, 11:47:01 PM »
Riss. Your suggestions for his replacement weren't exactly inspiring.

And the only defence that anybody seems to have for him now is that they don't trust Lerner to appoint somebody else.  It doesn't have to be Mourinho to see us through to the rest of the season, it just needs to be somebody who can at least organise a defence and provide a bit of motivation.  Chelsea fans didn't want Benitez, but QPR result aside he's done a brilliant job in the league since taking over.  I'm sure nobody fancied John Gregory when Little left, but he came in, organised things and we had an amazing lift.  Lambert has failed, continues to fail and everything he has touched has turned to shite.  The worst defence and the worst goal scoring record in the league, you just can't continue with somebody like that.  It's a shame it hasn't worked out, but it hasn't, and we have to stay up.  He will DEFINITELY take us down, so by definition a new boss MIGHT keep us up.  It's probably too late in any case, but you never know.  You only have to look at Lambert to see he is a broken shell of a man, and that must rub off on the players.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1584 on: January 12, 2013, 11:47:36 PM »
Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.


You can't think of a better manager than the man who has failed so miserably this season, who has given us so many humiliating results and cannot even instil basic organisation and confidence in the team?  He'd be more likely to take us straight back down to League 1 to be honest.  Still, at least you've stopped pretending that he's capable of keeping us up.

Nope, can't think of a better manager who would likely want the job than Paul Lambert to get us back up should we go down. Let's face it, he has been dealt a really bum hand by Lerner, that team today contained no more than three or four Premier League standard players.
 Lambert has a very good track record as a manager, Norwich's successive promotions weren't flukes, give him a season in The championship and the freedom and lack of pressure to mould a team and we'll be okay I reckon.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1585 on: January 12, 2013, 11:50:01 PM »
Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.


You can't think of a better manager than the man who has failed so miserably this season, who has given us so many humiliating results and cannot even instil basic organisation and confidence in the team?  He'd be more likely to take us straight back down to League 1 to be honest.  Still, at least you've stopped pretending that he's capable of keeping us up.

Nope, can't think of a better manager who would likely want the job than Paul Lambert to get us back up should we go down. Let's face it, he has been dealt a really bum hand by Lerner, that team today contained no more than three or four Premier League standard players.
 Lambert has a very good track record as a manager, Norwich's successive promotions weren't flukes, give him a season in The championship and the freedom and lack of pressure to mould a team and we'll be okay I reckon.

I agree with this. I think long term, if we drop, he will bring us straight back and be much, much stronger than we are now.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1586 on: January 12, 2013, 11:52:14 PM »
Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.


You can't think of a better manager than the man who has failed so miserably this season, who has given us so many humiliating results and cannot even instil basic organisation and confidence in the team?  He'd be more likely to take us straight back down to League 1 to be honest.  Still, at least you've stopped pretending that he's capable of keeping us up.

Nope, can't think of a better manager who would likely want the job than Paul Lambert to get us back up should we go down. Let's face it, he has been dealt a really bum hand by Lerner, that team today contained no more than three or four Premier League standard players.
 Lambert has a very good track record as a manager, Norwich's successive promotions weren't flukes, give him a season in The championship and the freedom and lack of pressure to mould a team and we'll be okay I reckon.

I agree with this. I think long term, if we drop, he will bring us straight back and be much, much stronger than we are now.
McLeish had a proven record of getting teams up but nobody gave him credit for that. You have already surrendered and so have I, but I don't think it is a good thing like you seem to.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1587 on: January 12, 2013, 11:52:23 PM »
Still in for me.
Yes we're probably going down but I can't think of a better manager, who would want the job, to bring us back up.


You can't think of a better manager than the man who has failed so miserably this season, who has given us so many humiliating results and cannot even instil basic organisation and confidence in the team?  He'd be more likely to take us straight back down to League 1 to be honest.  Still, at least you've stopped pretending that he's capable of keeping us up.

Nope, can't think of a better manager who would likely want the job than Paul Lambert to get us back up should we go down. Let's face it, he has been dealt a really bum hand by Lerner, that team today contained no more than three or four Premier League standard players.
 Lambert has a very good track record as a manager, Norwich's successive promotions weren't flukes, give him a season in The championship and the freedom and lack of pressure to mould a team and we'll be okay I reckon.

Where's Owen Coyle these days?  My Bolton supporting relatives were all saying the same thing about him.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1588 on: January 12, 2013, 11:52:27 PM »
I don't think sacking the manager does anything. A lot of the players aren't good enough, we can't keep changing the manager every year. Lerner needs to open his fucking wallet and get a brain.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1589 on: January 12, 2013, 11:54:52 PM »
No chance of us coming straight back up if we go down this year.

Finances will be even more of a mess and this squad would get the life bullied out of them in the championship on a weekly basis.

We need to somehow stay up this year and if it takes sacking Nesbit to do it then do it.

 


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