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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 847984 times)

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1530 on: January 12, 2013, 08:57:26 PM »
Well that's a shit result.

We have to stick with Lambert. We simply need to go through this pain in order to come out the other end. If we don't we're truly screwed for many years.

It's certainly looking more like we'll go down but I still think we should stick with Lambert.

This.

I agree, too.

He has put together a sequence of results that should get any manager in the league sacked, but he's still the best option for us.

That madness isn't his fault, it is a reflection of where we are as a club.

Me too, but it fucking hurts at the moment.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1531 on: January 12, 2013, 08:58:53 PM »
I see Bristol City have just sacked their manager.I presume it's because they have had a series of shit results and would like a shot at survival ? That's what most normal clubs do

McInnes was quite highly regarded when he went there aswell.

He saved them from relegation from an even worse position the previous season AFAIK.


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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1532 on: January 12, 2013, 08:59:10 PM »
It's time for him to go i'm afraid, regardless of our poor playing staff, if this is the best you can come up with after a week on the training pitch, then it's good night.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1533 on: January 12, 2013, 08:59:47 PM »
Well that's a shit result.

We have to stick with Lambert. We simply need to go through this pain in order to come out the other end. If we don't we're truly screwed for many years.

It's certainly looking more like we'll go down but I still think we should stick with Lambert.

This.

I agree, too.

He has put together a sequence of results that should get any manager in the league sacked, but he's still the best option for us.

That madness isn't his fault, it is a reflection of where we are as a club.
I'm really struggling to see how he is the best option for us ? No other team in all the leagues would tolerate these results including the conference.It's embarrassing

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1534 on: January 12, 2013, 09:05:40 PM »
I honestly think that were we to replace him right now, it may or may not keep us up, but it would simply be delaying the inevitable.

The club is so badly run right now that the force of gravity simply can't be avoided.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1535 on: January 12, 2013, 09:06:07 PM »

Frightening stats in comparison with last season-

 Just 19 points from 22 games. That's 0.86 points a game, that's under 33 points after 38 games, that's..... well, you all know what that is

@MatKendrick: At this stage of last season, Villa were 11th in the table, eight points better off on 27 and with goal difference of minus-3, not minus-25
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 09:08:32 PM by eastie »

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1536 on: January 12, 2013, 09:07:03 PM »
Just 19 points from 22 games. That's 0.86 points a game, that's under 33 points after 38 games, that's..... well, you all know what that is

we can all quote kendrick on twitter

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1537 on: January 12, 2013, 09:10:48 PM »
I liked the idea of Lambert a lot, but it hasnt worked out.

We still cannot convert a corner or defend one, we still are incapable of maintaining possession because for the 4th transfer window in a row we have not brought in a midfield.

His admirable transfer policy has proven fairly ineffective even given large funds.

His willfull freezing out of our more experienced players has backfired badly. yeah we all cheered when Hutton & Warnock got pushed out and Bent got a "kick up the backside" but it was foolish to burn those bridges. They could have been rotated with much more tact.

In short either he has caught the Aston Villa "crap curse" from us or he was not the right bloke anyway, but either way I dont see how he can come back from this. We need a steady hand to grind out some results. I didnt think it could get any worse from last season but it has. Depressing.

« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 09:13:03 PM by ciggiesnbeer »

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1538 on: January 12, 2013, 09:14:20 PM »
Who do we suggest can come in and have to put up with having little money to spend?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1539 on: January 12, 2013, 09:17:27 PM »
Who do we suggest can come in and have to put up with having little money to spend?

My answer is Gary Mcallister. Not because he is a world beater but because he knows the club and did well enough last time. Also he would work with no funds. Bait him with the chance of a full time contract if he keeps us up.

Cowans maybe a second choice. I dont think someone new to the club is going to be able to help fast enough to be honest.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1540 on: January 12, 2013, 09:20:12 PM »
Wasnt McAllister more unpopular than Benitez? As for Cowans, that is a fantasy choice surely?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1541 on: January 12, 2013, 09:21:26 PM »
How can it be his fault when he doesn't have the backing? He's been given transfer budget but no wage budget, its all well and good paying a fee if he cant pay a player.
Today the referee was fucking abysmal and Benteke should have had 3, I wouldn't blame Lambo for that

Managers with lesser budgets and players are doing better than him. We all know resources are thread bare, but the lack of organisation is a coaching failure, the abysmal goal difference position demonstrates tactical failure, and the body language of players and staff indicates motivational failure. 

The combination of an abysmal absent owner and incompetent, out of depth manager is a perfect storm I'm afraid.  Relegation seems inevitable.

Have to agree with this. Yes we don't have huge resources but we still spent 20 odd million in the summer which is plenty more than lots of other teams.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1542 on: January 12, 2013, 09:23:55 PM »
Doesn't matter who the manager is (although I understand fans calling for his head), the problem is Lerner and his asset stripping. He's sold the best players at the club and replaced them with lower league garbage, and will continue with his ridiculous plan to have everyone at the club on YTS wages. No manager could come in and work with a system like that and get results. He sold us a lie.
The club is going down and the fault lies entirely at Lerner's feet

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1543 on: January 12, 2013, 09:24:37 PM »
Wasnt McAllister more unpopular than Benitez? As for Cowans, that is a fantasy choice surely?

Absolutely. he was despised by the fans and the players who he drilled more than they wanted on things like set peices. Thing is he was a small bright spot of competency over the past two years.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1544 on: January 12, 2013, 09:26:27 PM »
Doesn't matter who the manager is (although I understand fans calling for his head), the problem is Lerner and his asset stripping. He's sold the best players at the club and replaced them with lower league garbage, and will continue with his ridiculous plan to have everyone at the club on YTS wages. No manager could come in and work with a system like that and get results. He sold us a lie.
The club is going down and the fault lies entirely at Lerner's feet

Overall yes Lerner is the blame but even if he goes it will be a long process, to stay up we need him to either back lambert with money or sack him and back a new manager with money.

It appears from lamberts comments the money is not there for him which is understandable if Lerner is having doubts about him as manager.

« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 09:28:11 PM by eastie »

 


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