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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 847981 times)

Offline MonsXI

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1515 on: January 12, 2013, 07:59:03 PM »
If we sacked Lambert thats 3 different managers gone in last two seasons we will end up like Blackburn.

I'm not happy obviously but you don't change a club that has flirted with relegation two seasons in a row in half a season.

Lerners business plan or lack of one is the problem.

Lerner is the problem overall but if he's not going to back lambert with money then he should Sack him- back or sack!

We will not stay in this division without new signings and transfer money, and it seems Lerner is not giving lambert it.

He's talked about lacking strength in the middle of the park so i firmly believe we'll see a big strapping defensive midfielder before the month end.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1516 on: January 12, 2013, 08:00:47 PM »
Lambert is not the problem.

He is doing the best he can with what he has got.

Injuries, bad luck and poor refs don't help.
It's no coincidence that since O'Neill quit we've sunk lower and lower down the table every year, to the point where we're now in very serious danger of relegation.  I admire your spirit but you can't put all that down to injuries, bad luck and poor refs.  The malaise at the club is much deeper rooted and far more serious than that.

Crikey.

I just started a new thread with a ramble about precisely that point. We're kidding ourselves if we don't think our problems are anything but deep seated.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1517 on: January 12, 2013, 08:01:07 PM »
If we sacked Lambert thats 3 different managers gone in last two seasons we will end up like Blackburn.

I'm not happy obviously but you don't change a club that has flirted with relegation two seasons in a row in half a season.

Lerners business plan or lack of one is the problem.

But he is changing it. We aren't flirting with relegation anymore, we are near certs now.

Theres 15 games left and we're in the relegation zone on goal difference, near certs? stop being a fucking drama queen!

We are not certs but we have to be odds on.

Were evens so the bookies think a 50/50 chance!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1518 on: January 12, 2013, 08:01:40 PM »
If we sacked Lambert thats 3 different managers gone in last two seasons we will end up like Blackburn.

I'm not happy obviously but you don't change a club that has flirted with relegation two seasons in a row in half a season.

Lerners business plan or lack of one is the problem.

But he is changing it. We aren't flirting with relegation anymore, we are near certs now.

Theres 15 games left and we're in the relegation zone on goal difference, near certs? stop being a fucking drama queen!

And the direction we are heading in?  And how are QPR, Saints, Wigan and Reading doing?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1519 on: January 12, 2013, 08:04:00 PM »
My first choice in the summer was Roberto Martinez.

He's kept Wigan up for three years now on a very limited budget and tactically they're flexible and better mentally prepared then a lot of teams down there.

In fairness once he wasn't going to come, my second choice was Lambert.

Aswell as the dodgy defence at Norwich, my other concern was that he'd only had one year at the premier league. We've seen plenty of flash in the pan managers who've had one great year at the club and then it starts to go shite in the second season, happened to Pardew twice and where are the likes of Phil Brown, Paul Jewell, Owen Coyle now.

I'd have been interested to have seen how Norwich would've done if Lambert had remained for another season, would be lower than what Hughton has got them up to I'd say.

Lambert gets sacked here and he'd have to start again in the championship or maybe at Celtic. He could still make an excellent manager but after a dodgy 1st half of the season I was backing him until the nightmare Xmas/New year run which imo has fcuked the minds of the young players which given is most of our team is not a good thing at all and we are relegation bound.


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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1520 on: January 12, 2013, 08:07:12 PM »
If we sacked Lambert thats 3 different managers gone in last two seasons we will end up like Blackburn.

I'm not happy obviously but you don't change a club that has flirted with relegation two seasons in a row in half a season.

Lerners business plan or lack of one is the problem.

But he is changing it. We aren't flirting with relegation anymore, we are near certs now.

Theres 15 games left and we're in the relegation zone on goal difference, near certs? stop being a fucking drama queen!

And the direction we are heading in?  And how are QPR, Saints, Wigan and Reading doing?
We beat Norwich and Liverpool in the space of a couple of days so we do have a good enough team and then in 8 days got slaughtered by Chelsea, my point is form can change and we have the ability to beat teams therefore we're not dead certs!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1521 on: January 12, 2013, 08:09:57 PM »
Well much as the debate is good and we are all here because we are hurting and care I am off out for a few drinks to take away the pain of another depressing weekend - enjoyed reading both sides of the argument , lets hope somehow things work out for us in the end.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1522 on: January 12, 2013, 08:11:37 PM »
Well that's a shit result.

We have to stick with Lambert. We simply need to go through this pain in order to come out the other end. If we don't we're truly screwed for many years.

It's certainly looking more like we'll go down but I still think we should stick with Lambert.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1523 on: January 12, 2013, 08:17:43 PM »
Well that's a shit result.

We have to stick with Lambert. We simply need to go through this pain in order to come out the other end. If we don't we're truly screwed for many years.

It's certainly looking more like we'll go down but I still think we should stick with Lambert.

This.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1524 on: January 12, 2013, 08:20:49 PM »
i think most of the players out there today are ok, they would be fine if they didnt happen to all be in the same team.

You could get way with playing 2 of the back 4 but not all of them, the same goes for midfield.

the problem is that collectively they are not good enough.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1525 on: January 12, 2013, 08:44:49 PM »
I see Bristol City have just sacked their manager.I presume it's because they have had a series of shit results and would like a shot at survival ? That's what most normal clubs do

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1526 on: January 12, 2013, 08:47:28 PM »
Well that's a shit result.

We have to stick with Lambert. We simply need to go through this pain in order to come out the other end. If we don't we're truly screwed for many years.

It's certainly looking more like we'll go down but I still think we should stick with Lambert.

This.

I agree, too.

He has put together a sequence of results that should get any manager in the league sacked, but he's still the best option for us.

That madness isn't his fault, it is a reflection of where we are as a club.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1527 on: January 12, 2013, 08:53:13 PM »
I see Bristol City have just sacked their manager.I presume it's because they have had a series of shit results and would like a shot at survival ? That's what most normal clubs do

McInnes was quite highly regarded when he went there aswell.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1528 on: January 12, 2013, 08:57:12 PM »
Well that's a shit result.

We have to stick with Lambert. We simply need to go through this pain in order to come out the other end. If we don't we're truly screwed for many years.

It's certainly looking more like we'll go down but I still think we should stick with Lambert.

This.

I agree, too.

He has put together a sequence of results that should get any manager in the league sacked, but he's still the best option for us.

That madness isn't his fault, it is a reflection of where we are as a club.


Sorry I can't agree. Lambert is very much part of the problem. If sticking with him means following him down to the Championship then that is blind loyalty that I can't subscribe to.

I know that the timing is not great vis a vis the transfer window and I haven't got any ready suggestions for who should be appointed but I'm convinced that if we stay with him, then our demise is inevitable.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1529 on: January 12, 2013, 08:57:25 PM »
Well that's a shit result.

We have to stick with Lambert. We simply need to go through this pain in order to come out the other end. If we don't we're truly screwed for many years.

It's certainly looking more like we'll go down but I still think we should stick with Lambert.

This.

I agree, too.

He has put together a sequence of results that should get any manager in the league sacked, but he's still the best option for us.

That madness isn't his fault, it is a reflection of where we are as a club.

I agree too. Its the utterly paralysis and monumentally silly decisions that have dealt Lambert a shitty hand. Once we are down, he needs to be given the tools to sort this mess out and Faulkner and Lerner need to take a very serious look at the how they've got us to this position.

 


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