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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 847988 times)

Offline neo_Villan

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1500 on: January 12, 2013, 07:41:35 PM »
I posted this in the post-match thread but it is probably more appropiate on this one:                                                                           I actually think the worst thing about the Chelsea, Spurs and Wigan games was that it showed the 3-5-2 formation had failed. I genuinely think Lambert thought he was on to something with it and the 6 game unbeaten run probably backed up that belief. After the car-crash of those 3 games he has clearly lost self-belief in his ability and it shows from his demeanour recently. He has tried everything and it has failed. The narrow 4-4-2 failed. The 4-2-3-1 has failed. Then the 3-5-2 failed. Now we are back to the 4-4-2 which has failed. Although as I have said, tactics are pretty unimportant when the players look mentally weak, nervous and not up for it. As much as I didn't want PL to be the same as MON, I did think he would have MON's man-management and motivational skills. Clearly not. He is just inept on pretty much every level and I will go on record as saying he is inferior to McLeish.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1501 on: January 12, 2013, 07:42:39 PM »
Well if that's true and seeing the results they had John terry it is then.

Get him, Cashley and Lampard in as joint player-managers. Sort out the management team, midfield and defence at a stroke.

Offline hilts_coolerking

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1502 on: January 12, 2013, 07:43:47 PM »
Lambert is not the problem.

He is doing the best he can with what he has got.

Injuries, bad luck and poor refs don't help.
It's no coincidence that since O'Neill quit we've sunk lower and lower down the table every year, to the point where we're now in very serious danger of relegation.  I admire your spirit but you can't put all that down to injuries, bad luck and poor refs.  The malaise at the club is much deeper rooted and far more serious than that.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1503 on: January 12, 2013, 07:44:20 PM »
Well if that's true and seeing the results they had John terry it is then.

Get him, Cashley and Lampard in as joint player-managers. Sort out the management team, midfield and defence at a stroke.

Don't forget didier on a free as well!

Offline London Villan

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1504 on: January 12, 2013, 07:44:47 PM »
We didn't sack McLeish last season, why would Lambert be sacked now?

We are 8 points worse off than at this stage last season.
We are in the relegation zone.
We have scored the least goals.
We have conceded the most goals
We have the worst goal difference.
We have had the worst defeat in our history.

Losing to a 4th Division Club
Worst loss in 138 years vs Chelsea

I don't want him sacked, but could understand why he would be.

Offline Californian Villain

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1505 on: January 12, 2013, 07:50:10 PM »
He's tried something, nothing wrong with that. It's not working and he is burying his head in the sand and refusing to do anything about the state we are in. Everything wrong with that.

This team doesn't need millions to stay up, just a few experienced players to help out.

And that is the thing.

We need:

LB - and, really, maybe even Warnock would do here if Lambert will swallow his pride
CB - even if Vlaar plays next week, I'm scared he'll go again, I'd like more experience here.
M - a bit of muscle and energy in the middle

With clever scouting and imaginative thinking, I reckon we could find all of those for 10m, and the effect on this team would be enormous.

At times, we can play decent football. We even saw some of it today, we put the odd decent passing move together. Nowhere near as often as we need to, but I can not believe anyone who understands the club, and has a role to play in its future can not see what we need, and how much some experience would help us, and is prepared to sit on their arse and do nothing while we career downwards.

It doesn't really require much. If Lerner isn't prepared to play his part in this and thinks we just need to stay calm and go with what we have, then he's an even bigger idiot than I thought he was.


Bollox. You couldn't even do that on Championship Manager; complete fantasy.

Offline Fin Feds Dad

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1506 on: January 12, 2013, 07:50:48 PM »
I said to my Dad on the way out - he's been here 6 months , they are now his players - and we have gone backwards - massively.

Its complete rubbish - worse than TSM.
I'd agree but what did Fin Feds Dad's Dad think?

He agreed too Tim !!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1507 on: January 12, 2013, 07:52:46 PM »
If we sacked Lambert thats 3 different managers gone in last two seasons we will end up like Blackburn.

I'm not happy obviously but you don't change a club that has flirted with relegation two seasons in a row in half a season.

Lerners business plan or lack of one is the problem.

Offline SashasGrandad

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1508 on: January 12, 2013, 07:53:28 PM »
It is stupid to be thinking about sacking the manager at this time of year - just as it was this time last year.

The only difference is last season TSM kept us up - but we all knew the football he had them playing was not good enough for AVFC and he had to go.

This year we need (and RL needs) to back Lambert and hope we stay up. If we stay up we will at least have a young team with a future who will have learnt from the experience. That will be something we can build on.

Now is the time to stand behind the manager and the players - hopefully we can find a couple of reinforcements this month - but if we can't we will get a few back from injury. I'm still happier now than I was 12 months ago. Even if it looks harder to avoid the drop, I still have hope that we will prevail - I know many on here will think I'm nuts - but if we can get something from our next 2 league games (and I think we can) then who knows!




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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1509 on: January 12, 2013, 07:54:21 PM »
If we sacked Lambert thats 3 different managers gone in last two seasons we will end up like Blackburn.

I'm not happy obviously but you don't change a club that has flirted with relegation two seasons in a row in half a season.

Lerners business plan or lack of one is the problem.

But he is changing it. We aren't flirting with relegation anymore, we are near certs now.

Offline MonsXI

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1510 on: January 12, 2013, 07:55:43 PM »
If we sacked Lambert thats 3 different managers gone in last two seasons we will end up like Blackburn.

I'm not happy obviously but you don't change a club that has flirted with relegation two seasons in a row in half a season.

Lerners business plan or lack of one is the problem.

But he is changing it. We aren't flirting with relegation anymore, we are near certs now.

Theres 15 games left and we're in the relegation zone on goal difference, near certs? stop being a fucking drama queen!

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1511 on: January 12, 2013, 07:55:50 PM »
If we sacked Lambert thats 3 different managers gone in last two seasons we will end up like Blackburn.

I'm not happy obviously but you don't change a club that has flirted with relegation two seasons in a row in half a season.

Lerners business plan or lack of one is the problem.

Lerner is the problem overall but if he's not going to back lambert with money then he should Sack him- back or sack!

We will not stay in this division without new signings and transfer money, and it seems Lerner is not giving lambert it.

Offline Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1512 on: January 12, 2013, 07:56:00 PM »
The problem is not Lambert. I only wish it was because we could have a go at fixing that for the remaining games.
The problem is Lerner. That cannot be fixed in the short term.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1513 on: January 12, 2013, 07:57:33 PM »
If we sacked Lambert thats 3 different managers gone in last two seasons we will end up like Blackburn.

I'm not happy obviously but you don't change a club that has flirted with relegation two seasons in a row in half a season.

Lerners business plan or lack of one is the problem.

But he is changing it. We aren't flirting with relegation anymore, we are near certs now.

Theres 15 games left and we're in the relegation zone on goal difference, near certs? stop being a fucking drama queen!

We are not certs but we have to be odds on.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1514 on: January 12, 2013, 07:58:21 PM »
It is stupid to be thinking about sacking the manager at this time of year - just as it was this time last year.

The only difference is last season TSM kept us up - but we all knew the football he had them playing was not good enough for AVFC and he had to go.

This year we need (and RL needs) to back Lambert and hope we stay up. If we stay up we will at least have a young team with a future who will have learnt from the experience. That will be something we can build on.

Now is the time to stand behind the manager and the players - hopefully we can find a couple of reinforcements this month - but if we can't we will get a few back from injury. I'm still happier now than I was 12 months ago. Even if it looks harder to avoid the drop, I still have hope that we will prevail - I know many on here will think I'm nuts - but if we can get something from our next 2 league games (and I think we can) then who knows!





Tsm just kept us up on 38 points - we are already 8 points worse off than this stage last season and in a run of 5 defeats and a draw from our last 6 games- far worse than last season , goal difference appalling too.

 


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