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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848142 times)

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #570 on: January 01, 2013, 08:44:57 PM »
Who are SMA?

Smog Monster Athletic.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #571 on: January 01, 2013, 08:45:39 PM »
Today wasn't shambolic.

Yes it was.  The first half was like watching a group of five year olds chase a beach ball around the playground.

Pretty amazing to come out of that with a point, then. Lambert must be a genius.

The defending in the first half was absolutely appalling. It could have been 3 or 4 nil. Thank Christ we got a point, but if we continue to defend like that till the season ends we're going to be punished more times than we get away with it. No matter how many on here dress it up we've been absolutely dreadful this season. It needs to be sorted this month or we could easily go down this season.
Lambert has been shit so far, but I still wouldn't sack him as it would cause more damage short term. I want him properly backed this month with cash for established PL standard players on PL wages. Anymore raids on the lower leagues and that's where we'll be playing next season.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #572 on: January 01, 2013, 08:46:03 PM »
Who would we get in to replace him? He hasn't had time to unpack I can't belive 22 people want him sacked!

Quite.

And not one of them has managed to suggest a reasonable replacement, let alone how we'd get said replacement and his backroom team in in time to do something this transfer window.

Everyone is disappointed, everyone is angry at the way things are going. It's as if they don't think we've noticed we've been shit for a big chunk of the season thus far.

We've been shit for almost all of the season, and our defence is appalling and we hardly score any goals.  Lambert's powers of organisation and motivation are clearly lacking.  Why should we retain such an underperforming employee, and what exactly would we lose if we ditched him?  How is that any new manager would be any worse?

We'd lose credibility for a start, we'd also lay down a marker that a manager at Villa Park gets half a season only to prove himself. Then there's the money to pay him off, recruit a replacement and fund his team building.



Credibility?  We're the laughing stock of English football.
No we are not.  As bad as things look sacking the manager will not improve things.  We need to give a manager time to turn us around and this is the manager who can do it for us.
Who do you want to manage us instead?
How long will you give the new manager before you sack him too?
Sacking a succession of managers will not bring stability to the club, apart from Randy splashing the cash the one thing we need more than anything is stability.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #573 on: January 01, 2013, 08:46:48 PM »
Today wasn't shambolic.

Yes it was.  The first half was like watching a group of five year olds chase a beach ball around the playground.

Pretty amazing to come out of that with a point, then. Lambert must be a genius.
When we are good it just is luck. When we are bad it is Lambert/the gimp Faulkner and his devil master Randy who are all in it to screw us. Riss wants it both ways, and no manager or owner will ever be good enough.

I don't think Mourinho would have done that much better with only £20 million or so and the squad as it was in May.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #574 on: January 01, 2013, 08:46:48 PM »
Plus a few wins. That would be nice.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #575 on: January 01, 2013, 08:47:51 PM »
Whilst I don't agree with his view of Lambert (well not entirely) to be fair to Risso the first 30 to 35 minutes today was utterly shambolic and t was only poor finishing by Swansea/good fortune during that initial period that paved the way for the point to be gained.  I think some credit is due to Lambert and the players for the way they put things right afterwards and almost won it.   

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #576 on: January 01, 2013, 08:49:51 PM »
SMA are the laughing stock of English football.Always have been,always will be.
Iphones are shit.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #577 on: January 01, 2013, 08:49:57 PM »
Today wasn't shambolic.

Yes it was.  The first half was like watching a group of five year olds chase a beach ball around the playground.

Pretty amazing to come out of that with a point, then. Lambert must be a genius.
When we are good it just is luck. When we are bad it is Lambert/the gimp Faulkner and his devil master Randy who are all in it to screw us. Riss wants it both ways, and no manager or owner will ever be good enough.

I don't think Mourinho would have done that much better with only £20 million or so and the squad as it was in May.

We were not good today.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #578 on: January 01, 2013, 08:50:43 PM »
I'm in this category, I was concerned by this team selection today and in all honesty we could have been 3 or 4 down after 20mins, we showed great character to come back and this months transfer window will be crucial.

With all the players out, who could he have picked in that team instead?

Bannan ahead of Stevens , I was concerned that too many were out of position and rather than Stevens and Bennett I would have only played one of those .
But I think Lambert was looking to nullify the attacking right of Angel Rangel and the winger (normally Dyer, although he didn't start today). Hence Bennett and Stevens.
Also would like to see Carruthers rather than albrighton , but I'm sure we all have differing views on selection.
Agreed, but he hasn't favoured Carruthers all season despite the fans' view that Carruthers is worth a run in the team.
I would maybe have gone with Lowton and Clark as a pair with Bennett and lichaj as full backs rather than use herd .
I'd agree with this although Lichaj was particularly crap against Wigwam.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #579 on: January 01, 2013, 08:50:48 PM »
SMA are the laughing stock of English football.Always have been,always will be.
Iphones are shit.

SHA?

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #580 on: January 01, 2013, 08:51:51 PM »
Who would we get in to replace him? He hasn't had time to unpack I can't belive 22 people want him sacked!

Quite.

And not one of them has managed to suggest a reasonable replacement, let alone how we'd get said replacement and his backroom team in in time to do something this transfer window.

Everyone is disappointed, everyone is angry at the way things are going. It's as if they don't think we've noticed we've been shit for a big chunk of the season thus far.

We've been shit for almost all of the season, and our defence is appalling and we hardly score any goals.  Lambert's powers of organisation and motivation are clearly lacking.  Why should we retain such an underperforming employee, and what exactly would we lose if we ditched him?  How is that any new manager would be any worse?

We'd lose credibility for a start, we'd also lay down a marker that a manager at Villa Park gets half a season only to prove himself. Then there's the money to pay him off, recruit a replacement and fund his team building.



Credibility?  We're the laughing stock of English football.

Says the man who wants Roy Keane as our manager.

It was actually just a suggestion of somebody who might organise the team a bit and motivate the players.  Something that Lambert has singularly failed to do.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #581 on: January 01, 2013, 08:52:46 PM »
We could have 5-0 down after 10 minutes.That was worse than anything against Chelsea.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #582 on: January 01, 2013, 08:52:56 PM »
I'm in this category, I was concerned by this team selection today and in all honesty we could have been 3 or 4 down after 20mins, we showed great character to come back and this months transfer window will be crucial.

With all the players out, who could he have picked in that team instead?

Bannan ahead of Stevens , I was concerned that too many were out of position and rather than Stevens and Bennett I would have only played one of those .
But I think Lambert was looking to nullify the attacking right of Angel Rangel and the winger (normally Dyer, although he didn't start today). Hence Bennett and Stevens.
Also would like to see Carruthers rather than albrighton , but I'm sure we all have differing views on selection.
Agreed, but he hasn't favoured Carruthers all season despite the fans' view that Carruthers is worth a run in the team.
I would maybe have gone with Lowton and Clark as a pair with Bennett and lichaj as full backs rather than use herd .
I'd agree with this although Lichaj was particularly crap against Wigwam.


Lambert does not favour Carruthers due to his Billy-Big-Bollocks attitude. I, on the other hand, think he is the next best thing.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #583 on: January 01, 2013, 08:54:10 PM »

It was actually just a suggestion of somebody who might organise the team a bit and motivate the players.  Something that Lambert has singularly failed to do.

So who, then, would you bring in as manager?

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #584 on: January 01, 2013, 08:55:01 PM »
Today wasn't shambolic.

Yes it was.  The first half was like watching a group of five year olds chase a beach ball around the playground.

Pretty amazing to come out of that with a point, then. Lambert must be a genius.
When we are good it just is luck. When we are bad it is Lambert/the gimp Faulkner and his devil master Randy who are all in it to screw us. Riss wants it both ways, and no manager or owner will ever be good enough.

I don't think Mourinho would have done that much better with only £20 million or so and the squad as it was in May.
We were not good today.

Not at all?
I thought Weimann's finishing was fantastic.
I thought Benteke refound some form after three poor games.
I thought Westwood looked good for most of the game.
I continue to like Guzan's progress as a top-level keeper.
I thought the discipline and organisation of the second half was excellent, in contrast to the first.
I liked the fact that the four first-half bookings did not develop into a 2 yelloes = a red (which in Delph's case could well have been a reality).

There were some aspects of today's game that were positive - but I suppose seeing them is an attitudinal challenge for some.

 


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