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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848118 times)

Offline silhillvilla

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #540 on: January 01, 2013, 07:29:57 PM »
IF he can keep us up this year I think he could go on to be a great villa manager

Offline ez

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #541 on: January 01, 2013, 07:31:36 PM »
I want him to stay but that doesn't mean i'm convinced he is a good manager... yet.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #542 on: January 01, 2013, 07:33:41 PM »
I want him to stay but that doesn't mean i'm convinced he is a good manager... yet.

I'm in this category, I was concerned by this team selection today and in all honesty we could have been 3 or 4 down after 20mins, we showed great character to come back and this months transfer window will be crucial.

Offline rutski

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #543 on: January 01, 2013, 07:36:37 PM »
I think one the biggest disappointments has been KEA, I really thought he'd be better.
Seemed promising at first but faded badly.

Especially as the videos from Holland seemed to show someone who was NRC but with passing. Here he can't seem to tackle at all.




Big step-up isn't it. Given time to settle he'll probably adapt. Just time is something we haven't got ATM.

Do you think so gnash, I haven't seen anything that makes me think kea will be make it in this league, he has been far too lightweight.
do you think eastie there has ever been a player that has taken 20 league games and a handful of cup games to settle and make a success of their career?

Offline Somniloquism

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #544 on: January 01, 2013, 07:36:47 PM »
I'm in this category, I was concerned by this team selection today and in all honesty we could have been 3 or 4 down after 20mins, we showed great character to come back and this months transfer window will be crucial.

With all the players out, who could he have picked in that team instead?

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #545 on: January 01, 2013, 07:42:08 PM »
I'm in this category, I was concerned by this team selection today and in all honesty we could have been 3 or 4 down after 20mins, we showed great character to come back and this months transfer window will be crucial.

With all the players out, who could he have picked in that team instead?

Bannan ahead of Stevens , I was concerned that too many were out of position and rather than Stevens and Bennett I would have only played one of those .

Also would like to see Carruthers rather than albrighton , but I'm sure we all have differing views on selection.

I would maybe have gone with Lowton and Clark as a pair with Bennett and lichaj as full backs rather than use herd .


Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #546 on: January 01, 2013, 07:43:59 PM »
I think one the biggest disappointments has been KEA, I really thought he'd be better.
Seemed promising at first but faded badly.

Especially as the videos from Holland seemed to show someone who was NRC but with passing. Here he can't seem to tackle at all.




Big step-up isn't it. Given time to settle he'll probably adapt. Just time is something we haven't got ATM.

Do you think so gnash, I haven't seen anything that makes me think kea will be make it in this league, he has been far too lightweight.
do you think eastie there has ever been a player that has taken 20 league games and a handful of cup games to settle and make a success of their career?

Yes of course, but I've seen little to suggest that kea is going to be a success - I hope he is though.

There have been successes after poor starts but there have been many who find the difference in the premier league too big to adjust to .
« Last Edit: January 01, 2013, 07:45:58 PM by eastie »

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #547 on: January 01, 2013, 07:45:03 PM »
KEA looked okay early on, wasn't he our player of the month for Aug or Sept? Hopefully this is just a drop in form and he can improve.

Offline Chipsticks

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #548 on: January 01, 2013, 07:45:53 PM »
I trust Lambert's vision, but so far I'm unconvinced on his execution of it. I do think he's the right man though.

Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #549 on: January 01, 2013, 07:49:13 PM »
Who would we get in to replace him? He hasn't had time to unpack I can't belive 22 people want him sacked!

Quite.

And not one of them has managed to suggest a reasonable replacement, let alone how we'd get said replacement and his backroom team in in time to do something this transfer window.

Everyone is disappointed, everyone is angry at the way things are going. It's as if they don't think we've noticed we've been shit for a big chunk of the season thus far.

Offline rutski

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #550 on: January 01, 2013, 07:50:42 PM »
I think one the biggest disappointments has been KEA, I really thought he'd be better.
Seemed promising at first but faded badly.

Especially as the videos from Holland seemed to show someone who was NRC but with passing. Here he can't seem to tackle at all.




Big step-up isn't it. Given time to settle he'll probably adapt. Just time is something we haven't got ATM.

Do you think so gnash, I haven't seen anything that makes me think kea will be make it in this league, he has been far too lightweight.
do you think eastie there has ever been a player that has taken 20 league games and a handful of cup games to settle and make a success of their career?

Yes of course, but I've seen little to suggest that kea is going to be a success - I hope he is though.

There have been successes after poor starts but there have been many who find the difference in the premier league too big to adjust to .
i got to stop reading your posts eastie, you drive me insane!

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #551 on: January 01, 2013, 08:10:00 PM »
Who would we get in to replace him? He hasn't had time to unpack I can't belive 22 people want him sacked!

Quite.

And not one of them has managed to suggest a reasonable replacement, let alone how we'd get said replacement and his backroom team in in time to do something this transfer window.

Everyone is disappointed, everyone is angry at the way things are going. It's as if they don't think we've noticed we've been shit for a big chunk of the season thus far.

We've been shit for almost all of the season, and our defence is appalling and we hardly score any goals.  Lambert's powers of organisation and motivation are clearly lacking.  Why should we retain such an underperforming employee, and what exactly would we lose if we ditched him?  How is that any new manager would be any worse?

Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #552 on: January 01, 2013, 08:20:03 PM »
Who would we get in to replace him? He hasn't had time to unpack I can't belive 22 people want him sacked!

Quite.

And not one of them has managed to suggest a reasonable replacement, let alone how we'd get said replacement and his backroom team in in time to do something this transfer window.

Everyone is disappointed, everyone is angry at the way things are going. It's as if they don't think we've noticed we've been shit for a big chunk of the season thus far.

We've been shit for almost all of the season, and our defence is appalling and we hardly score any goals.  Lambert's powers of organisation and motivation are clearly lacking.  Why should we retain such an underperforming employee, and what exactly would we lose if we ditched him?  How is that any new manager would be any worse?

Because they'd be coming here from a standing start, no familiarity with the squad, they'd want their own backroom team - which would take time, as previous appointments suggest - and they'd have, by that point, a limited chunk of window, if any, to do any business.

I totally, totally understand your argument re us not being good enough - we can all see that from a cursory glance at the table - do you really not think we've all seen this ourselves?

The fact is, if you're going to satisfy your blood lust by sacking the manager, you need to be able to suggest a better option, and one that we could acquire, and quickly.

I've asked you about a dozen times on this thread for your suggestions and the best you came up with was "maybe we could talk to Roberto Di Matteo. Or someone like Roy Keane". I also saw you suggest in the match thread that having no manager at all would be better.

Don't get me wrong, I have agreed with you on plenty of subjects, and you're entitled to your opinion on this one, but you just get so angry, you lose all coherence on the subject.

Personally I have seen easily enough evidence so far to make me think there is something good about Lambert, and I can see that it is not going to be a quick fix for anybody coming in to the club when he did, and having to work with the clueless owner.

I appreciate you don't see that (although you seem to understand the bit about the clueless owner, which makes me wonder why you think the manager should be doing such a brilliant job anyway, but hey ho), but if you're going to give the manager the bullet, you need to have a better option, and one that is workable, feasible, and can be put into place practically overnight.

You were as much in favour of this appointment as the rest of us a few short months ago, so I just can not believe how quickly you've turned on him. It just makes me wonder whether you'd turn so quickly on anyone we were to replace him with.

Give the bloke a chance FFS.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2013, 08:22:04 PM by pauliewalnuts »

Offline rutski

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #553 on: January 01, 2013, 08:20:54 PM »
Who would we get in to replace him? He hasn't had time to unpack I can't belive 22 people want him sacked!

Quite.

And not one of them has managed to suggest a reasonable replacement, let alone how we'd get said replacement and his backroom team in in time to do something this transfer window.

Everyone is disappointed, everyone is angry at the way things are going. It's as if they don't think we've noticed we've been shit for a big chunk of the season thus far.

We've been shit for almost all of the season, and our defence is appalling and we hardly score any goals.  Lambert's powers of organisation and motivation are clearly lacking.  Why should we retain such an underperforming employee, and what exactly would we lose if we ditched him?  How is that any new manager would be any worse?
after i travelled to norwich and saw such a wonderful display and then when i went to liverpool a few days later, the phrase lambert out would have never ever have entered my mind. take yourself back 2 weeks and give me your honest thoughts riss.

Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #554 on: January 01, 2013, 08:22:35 PM »
Who would we get in to replace him? He hasn't had time to unpack I can't belive 22 people want him sacked!

Quite.

And not one of them has managed to suggest a reasonable replacement, let alone how we'd get said replacement and his backroom team in in time to do something this transfer window.

Everyone is disappointed, everyone is angry at the way things are going. It's as if they don't think we've noticed we've been shit for a big chunk of the season thus far.

We've been shit for almost all of the season, and our defence is appalling and we hardly score any goals.  Lambert's powers of organisation and motivation are clearly lacking.  Why should we retain such an underperforming employee, and what exactly would we lose if we ditched him?  How is that any new manager would be any worse?
after i travelled to norwich and saw such a wonderful display and then when i went to liverpool a few days later, the phrase lambert out would have never ever have entered my mind. take yourself back 2 weeks and give me your honest thoughts riss.

Indeed, and I reckon if you looked back at that time, you'd find Risso entirely in agreement with you.

 


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