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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848128 times)

Offline john e

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #240 on: December 30, 2012, 09:35:59 AM »
I feel a lot better now I see the nasher is back

His doom laden posts have a better quality than anyone else, and in a wierd way he makes me feel safe and secure in dark times
A bit like a safety blanket

The fact I don't agree with hardly anything he says is irelavent, welcome back gnash

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #241 on: December 30, 2012, 09:41:37 AM »
I'm still backing Lambert and buying good youth players is surely the way forward.

Whether we have bought quality youth is yet to be decided, but what we have done is buy too much too soon. We currently have no partnerships that have played together before in any areas of the pitch and a captain that is still learning his position himself never mind leading others.

Personally I would rather go down trying to play the right way with the right setup than stay in the League with a manager like McLeish. I may be naive in thinking that way and there is a chance that it could go disastrously wrong but teams like WBA and Newcastle have also shown it can go right.

Of course I'd rather we scrape it and stay up, but this looks like a long term plan and many things will go wrong before they go right.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #242 on: December 30, 2012, 09:52:25 AM »
I feel a lot better now I see the nasher is back

His doom laden posts have a better quality than anyone else, and in a wierd way he makes me feel safe and secure in dark times
A bit like a safety blanket

The fact I don't agree with hardly anything he says is irelavent, welcome back gnash

Yes there is a comforting feel to him, like your old pair of favourite slippers fished out of the wardrobe.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #243 on: December 30, 2012, 09:55:51 AM »
I'm still backing Lambert and buying good youth players is surely the way forward.

Whether we have bought quality youth is yet to be decided, but what we have done is buy too much too soon. We currently have no partnerships that have played together before in any areas of the pitch and a captain that is still learning his position himself never mind leading others.

Personally I would rather go down trying to play the right way with the right setup than stay in the League with a manager like McLeish. I may be naive in thinking that way and there is a chance that it could go disastrously wrong but teams like WBA and Newcastle have also shown it can go right.

Of course I'd rather we scrape it and stay up, but this looks like a long term plan and many things will go wrong before they go right.

Any long term plan could not include a possible risk that we might drop so low. On what evidence does it look like a long term plan?'

Offline john e

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #244 on: December 30, 2012, 10:05:16 AM »
I'm still backing Lambert and buying good youth players is surely the way forward.

Whether we have bought quality youth is yet to be decided, but what we have done is buy too much too soon. We currently have no partnerships that have played together before in any areas of the pitch and a captain that is still learning his position himself never mind leading others.

Personally I would rather go down trying to play the right way with the right setup than stay in the League with a manager like McLeish. I may be naive in thinking that way and there is a chance that it could go disastrously wrong but teams like WBA and Newcastle have also shown it can go right.

Of course I'd rather we scrape it and stay up, but this looks like a long term plan and many things will go wrong before they go right.

Any long term plan could not include a possible risk that we might drop so low. On what evidence does it look like a long term plan?'


i dont think the long term plan included whats just happened, what happened at Chelsea was the wheels coming of any plan and has destroyed any confidence we might have had,

it reminds me of when Carson came back from that disasterous England game, he was just shot, finished, its just this time seamingly its the whole team

but thats not to say there wasnt a plan, the future of the club has been put in the hands of younger players who hopefully will be able to play a more progresive mode of football under a promising up and coming manager, all alien to what we have been used to for a long while,
i know the evidence is sparse, but i think we were working to a plan, and hopefully still will be, although are next couple of signings will be key

 

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #245 on: December 30, 2012, 10:11:58 AM »
I'm still backing Lambert and buying good youth players is surely the way forward.

Whether we have bought quality youth is yet to be decided, but what we have done is buy too much too soon. We currently have no partnerships that have played together before in any areas of the pitch and a captain that is still learning his position himself never mind leading others.

Personally I would rather go down trying to play the right way with the right setup than stay in the League with a manager like McLeish. I may be naive in thinking that way and there is a chance that it could go disastrously wrong but teams like WBA and Newcastle have also shown it can go right.

Of course I'd rather we scrape it and stay up, but this looks like a long term plan and many things will go wrong before they go right.

Any long term plan could not include a possible risk that we might drop so low. On what evidence does it look like a long term plan?'




i dont think the long term plan included whats just happened, what happened at Chelsea was the wheels coming of any plan and has destroyed any confidence we might have had,

it reminds me of when Carson came back from that disasterous England game, he was just shot, finished, its just this time seamingly its the whole team

but thats not to say there wasnt a plan, the future of the club has been put in the hands of younger players who hopefully will be able to play a more progresive mode of football under a promising up and coming manager, all alien to what we have been used to for a long while,
i know the evidence is sparse, but i think we were working to a plan, and hopefully still will be, although are next couple of signings will be key

 

And could so easily have been avoided if lambert had shut up shop and tightened things up when the game was lost at Chelsea at 3-0 rather than his crazy gung  ho style which left us wide open to attack from all angles.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #246 on: December 30, 2012, 10:25:27 AM »
I hope the experience has not caused long term damage to the young players. It will do if old heads aren't brought in soon. There must be some Mike Pejic, Des Bremner, Trevor Hockey type players about. No nonsense men who looked mean, were mean and did the business. Then we can start looking at the fancy stuff. We know we have great forwards, well at least two, but we must stop the rot. The atmosphere in there will be incredible if we can do so. It is getting more like the late sixties all the time.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #247 on: December 30, 2012, 10:27:54 AM »
I'm still backing Lambert and buying good youth players is surely the way forward.

Whether we have bought quality youth is yet to be decided, but what we have done is buy too much too soon. We currently have no partnerships that have played together before in any areas of the pitch and a captain that is still learning his position himself never mind leading others.

Personally I would rather go down trying to play the right way with the right setup than stay in the League with a manager like McLeish. I may be naive in thinking that way and there is a chance that it could go disastrously wrong but teams like WBA and Newcastle have also shown it can go right.

Of course I'd rather we scrape it and stay up, but this looks like a long term plan and many things will go wrong before they go right.

Any long term plan could not include a possible risk that we might drop so low. On what evidence does it look like a long term plan?'

Evidence that it is a long term plan is that we are buying young players. No plan is without risk as their is no fail safe solution whatever path you choose.

Minimizing the risk is the ideal solution but sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate and I think I would rather buy 4 young hopefuls than spend big money on players like Ireland and Nzogbia.

Offline Ross

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #248 on: December 30, 2012, 10:31:32 AM »
I'm still backing Lambert and buying good youth players is surely the way forward.

Whether we have bought quality youth is yet to be decided, but what we have done is buy too much too soon. We currently have no partnerships that have played together before in any areas of the pitch and a captain that is still learning his position himself never mind leading others.

Personally I would rather go down trying to play the right way with the right setup than stay in the League with a manager like McLeish. I may be naive in thinking that way and there is a chance that it could go disastrously wrong but teams like WBA and Newcastle have also shown it can go right.

Of course I'd rather we scrape it and stay up, but this looks like a long term plan and many things will go wrong before they go right.

Any long term plan could not include a possible risk that we might drop so low. On what evidence does it look like a long term plan?'

Does anyone really think PL would survive a relegation ? The fans certainly wouldn't and the board would have to listen.  Any manager that relegates my club doesn't deserve a second chance.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #249 on: December 30, 2012, 10:32:08 AM »
Sacking Lambert is pointless. I'm hoping the one positive from the last three horrendous displays is that Lerner must realise he needs to invest or we're going to miss this massive TV deal.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #250 on: December 30, 2012, 10:34:09 AM »
He hardly inspires confidence does he with his dull interviews? Doesn't strike me as the leader I'm sure many of us thought we we getting.

So who do we want who will provide us with with interesting, witty and less dull interviews after a heavy defeat?
Holloway ? 'Arry ? Barry Fry ? Stephen Fry ?
No idea. But doesn't appear to have it in him galvanise the team and lead them back on track, not the leader we came across during his playing days.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #251 on: December 30, 2012, 10:34:19 AM »
Which isn't the point and you know it. Anyway, how can you know about someone's attitude when you've never met him?

I have never met Sir Alex, but surely I am entitled to an opinion about him? My initial point was about potential managers like BFR and Peter Withe and I mentioned Nigel Kennedy then, if it has upset you that much I apologise profusely, but surely I am entitled to an opinion about someone? I never met Margaret Thatcher by the way, and have read some people saying far far worse things about her,

Nigel Kennedy is a gent. I had a season ticket in the seat behind him in the Holte in the '90's and he was as friendly and genuine as could be to everyone around him. Gave us free tickets to away games on several occasions as well. Top bloke!

Online PaulWinch again

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #252 on: December 30, 2012, 10:36:04 AM »
Also the players need to take their share of responsibility, I don't care if they're young they need to have more character about them. Also young or not some of them are fairly experienced, Clark, Bannan, Herd, Lichaj have all been playing for at least a year. They're not complete novices and that shouldn't be ignored.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #253 on: December 30, 2012, 10:37:42 AM »
Which isn't the point and you know it. Anyway, how can you know about someone's attitude when you've never met him?

I have never met Sir Alex, but surely I am entitled to an opinion about him? My initial point was about potential managers like BFR and Peter Withe and I mentioned Nigel Kennedy then, if it has upset you that much I apologise profusely, but surely I am entitled to an opinion about someone? I never met Margaret Thatcher by the way, and have read some people saying far far worse things about her,

Nigel Kennedy is a gent. I had a season ticket in the seat behind him in the Holte in the '90's and he was as friendly and genuine as could be to everyone around him. Gave us free tickets to away games on several occasions as well. Top bloke!

Yes met him a couple of times and certainly never came across as anything other than a really decent bloke and fan who had time for fellow fans- his gf was a stunner too!

Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #254 on: December 30, 2012, 10:40:27 AM »
I hope the experience has not caused long term damage to the young players. It will do if old heads aren't brought in soon. There must be some Mike Pejic, Des Bremner, Trevor Hockey type players about. No nonsense men who looked mean, were mean and did the business. Then we can start looking at the fancy stuff. We know we have great forwards, well at least two, but we must stop the rot. The atmosphere in there will be incredible if we can do so. It is getting more like the late sixties all the time.

Tend to agree, the team really needs a chunk of backbone added to it.

When they are confident they can play well. When we concede of late, heads go down and the only thing we look like doing is conceding more.

 


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