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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848116 times)

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #225 on: December 30, 2012, 02:18:16 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager

Nigel has never claimed to be a better fan than anyone, even though he has done more for the rest of us than most.

I said his attitude and stick to that. As for doing more than most of us, I dont quite understand what you mean

How many supporters have you paid to get into a match when they were skint, bought drinks for, given lifts to and given away tickets because you had a couple of spares?

Actually, I paid for a couple of blokes to get into a game once in the early 80's, they were in my local and we took them down. Fair play to the bloke, he has the money to do it of course

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #226 on: December 30, 2012, 02:22:07 AM »
Which isn't the point and you know it. Anyway, how can you know about someone's attitude when you've never met him?

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #227 on: December 30, 2012, 02:26:20 AM »
Which isn't the point and you know it. Anyway, how can you know about someone's attitude when you've never met him?

I have never met Sir Alex, but surely I am entitled to an opinion about him? My initial point was about potential managers like BFR and Peter Withe and I mentioned Nigel Kennedy then, if it has upset you that much I apologise profusely, but surely I am entitled to an opinion about someone? I never met Margaret Thatcher by the way, and have read some people saying far far worse things about her,

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #228 on: December 30, 2012, 02:27:32 AM »
You are also entitled to be told by several people that you are wrong.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #229 on: December 30, 2012, 02:33:56 AM »
You are also entitled to be told by several people that you are wrong.

Have I whinged about that, just merely put my points across I thought? Anyway, time for bed

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #230 on: December 30, 2012, 02:35:12 AM »
This club hasn't enough ambition to sack PL they're quite happy to just muddle alongHappy New fucking year !!

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #231 on: December 30, 2012, 02:35:45 AM »
I had a much more impressive post typed out but I accidentally cancelled it, but to some up my key point I think we need to stick with Lambert. He's not the problem, though he is far from blameless (some of the tactics have been bizarre, cf Herd as a sweeper). For the last two seasons I've said we've needed to rebuild and this is what Lambert has been trying to do. The problem is that, for the most part, he hasn't had the funds necessary to do this. We've needed a completely new defence and a radically remodeled midfield and to achieve this the rump of our transfer budget has been imports and Football League youngsters bought in the £2-3million range. The problem with these kind of players is that you are going to get a relatively low hit rate of successes. You can find a few good ones (Westwood looks like one to me) but you also find a few who can't handle the change in level (as much as it grieves me to write off players so quickly it seems that Bennett and Al Ahamadi belong to this camp). The irony is that (Guzan aside) Lambert's two best signings have been the players that have greater fees in Benteke and Vlaar. Would Lambert be shopping around for £2-3million waifs and strays if he had more funds and scope for wages? I say no, and our problems stem from a reliance upon young players who have much more difficulty in maintaining confidence and some players who have flopped (though it is unrealistic to expect every cheap player to be a runaway success).

Basically, we can sack Lambert and continue along the same path with the next manager (and no doubt Risso will be the first to start a thread to ask for him to be relieved of his duties) or we can back Lambert in January and hope that he can find three or four quality players that can bring the quality and leadership that we need. These need to be mostly Vlaar-type signings rather than bargain basement gambles we've seemed to focus on so far.

Offline supertom

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #232 on: December 30, 2012, 04:04:58 AM »
For me, long term Lambert is a good fit here.
In the short term though, I don't think he's got enough nous yet to turn our side around. He took a job that would have had even Fergie and Mourinho struggling. At the very best it's a mid-table side.
Randy can sack Lambert, get in someone more experienced, and with a track record of pulling sides up by the scruff of the neck. In which case we could end up with another O Neill. Good in the short term, and avoid relegation, but long term the thinking might be too restricted.

He can stick with Lambert and there's a strong chance we'll get relegated. If we survive by the skin of our teeth then we look set to do it over again next year without major funding, and Lambert to seriously rethinking his buying policy and tactics. He cannot avoid experienced pro's, and Randy's mantra can't either. We will have to sign a few players who've done the business and pay them 50k a week. It'll help develop the kids, and every solid prem side has a core of experienced players.
But long term Lambert could take us places I feel. But the problem is, he is learning himself too. He's far from the finished article and has shown a lot of naivity.

It's hard. We could have gone for someone like Allardyce in the summer, be fairly comfortable in the mid-table areas, but be playing very one dimensionally.

If we go down, I don't think it'll be the titanic disaster it would have been under McLiesh. But for as bad as McLeish was he never masterminded a run quite as shite as the last three games. It's been one of the worst weeks I've ever experienced as a Villa fan.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #233 on: December 30, 2012, 07:22:27 AM »
There were stories coming out of the club in the summer that the money was there for lambert but he has chosen this transfer policy of young hungry lower league players , now apparently there is talk that lambert will believe very limited resources in January - conflicting reports , if he isn't given much money we are fucked!

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #234 on: December 30, 2012, 07:24:24 AM »
He's gotta get a grip and soon. The players didn't know what they were doing ffs. Ran round like headless chickens for the most part.  Part of life that Villa will play badly and generally be shite every now and then but this was more than that. Smells like Billy McNeil to me. No that's unfair...., graham turner. Sort out the defence for starters - its pish. any decent side or bad side for that matter sorts out the defence for starters and then builds from there - we're not manu who can let slide 3 goals and then win the game ffs. This is really basic stuff and i'm bemused lambert seems to be incapable of working it out.

The return of the glorious gnasher - you have been sorely missed my old friend, but I fear your return suggests the end is nigh.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #235 on: December 30, 2012, 09:09:22 AM »
He hardly inspires confidence does he with his dull interviews? Doesn't strike me as the leader I'm sure many of us thought we we getting.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2012, 09:23:02 AM by itbrvilla »

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #236 on: December 30, 2012, 09:20:49 AM »
He hardly inspires confidence does he with his dull interviews. Does strike me as the leader I'm sure many of us thought we we getting.
At least he is still prepared to give interviews. There is an alternative and it is certain that everybody is wary of a silent man.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #237 on: December 30, 2012, 09:24:10 AM »
This club hasn't enough ambition to sack PL they're quite happy to just muddle alongHappy New fucking year !!

Muddling along would be heaven. 16-0 and counting isn't muddling along.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #238 on: December 30, 2012, 09:33:00 AM »
He hardly inspires confidence does he with his dull interviews? Doesn't strike me as the leader I'm sure many of us thought we we getting.

So who do we want who will provide us with with interesting, witty and less dull interviews after a heavy defeat?
Holloway ? 'Arry ? Barry Fry ? Stephen Fry ?

Offline Dazvillain

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #239 on: December 30, 2012, 09:34:28 AM »
The problem lambert or anyone else will have now is after the last  couple of years, how on earth are we going to attract any signings in the first place ..

 


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