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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848118 times)

Online Ian.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #210 on: December 30, 2012, 01:49:51 AM »
Lambert has to be given control of our affairs, maybe not quite as free as MON had but as near as. I feel if he does have more financial clout he is the man for them job. Surely after appointing him the Owner needs to take a leap of faith in his appointment.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #211 on: December 30, 2012, 01:52:14 AM »
I really respect you Paulie, you know this, but it isn't as if he was picking all the senior players before this so called injury crisis.  Bent couldn't get a game in the league, Ireland was still in and out, Nzogbia pre knee injury was nowhere to be seen, Hutton punted out on loan, Warnock the same, I mean come on, they can't all be shit enough to be played out of th side by the likes of what we have seen today?

And what was your opinion on all of those players last year when the performances were not any better but they did not have the lack of experience as a fall back option.

This year, N'Zog has appeared 11 times, albeit as sub mostly but hasn't shown in those appearances any reason to start him ahead of others before the last three matches. Ireland has been on the pitch for 12 of the 15 goals conceded. Bent is the only one he deliberately dropped, but as others have mentioned, without the injury at Norwich, he probably would have been in the side in at least two of the last three matches. As for Hutton and Warnock, I doubt they would have been any better then Ireland has been. We already have Herd giving away stupid free kicks around the box, why have two other players doing the same.

Agree mostly. Bent though is different. As others have pointed out he's limited but its been pretty obvious there's an agenda to get him out, probably to raise funds, Play to his strengths and he'll score and its nowt to do with players like Downing and young going. Torres had better service than him and couldn't hit a barn door till FSW arrived. Likewise Houllier knew how to get Bent scoring,. I'd take Bent's goals  for 85 minutes looking disintentered because Benteke, Gabby and co haven't got that knack of being prolific scorers. him and wiemann/benteke up front would do me.,

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #212 on: December 30, 2012, 01:57:12 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #213 on: December 30, 2012, 01:59:55 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager
I think you need to get out more, he is a decent bloke and a Villa fan.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #214 on: December 30, 2012, 02:00:04 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager

Nigel has never claimed to be a better fan than anyone, even though he has done more for the rest of us than most.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #215 on: December 30, 2012, 02:02:15 AM »
I really respect you Paulie, you know this, but it isn't as if he was picking all the senior players before this so called injury crisis.  Bent couldn't get a game in the league, Ireland was still in and out, Nzogbia pre knee injury was nowhere to be seen, Hutton punted out on loan, Warnock the same, I mean come on, they can't all be shit enough to be played out of th side by the likes of what we have seen today?

And what was your opinion on all of those players last year when the performances were not any better but they did not have the lack of experience as a fall back option.

This year, N'Zog has appeared 11 times, albeit as sub mostly but hasn't shown in those appearances any reason to start him ahead of others before the last three matches. Ireland has been on the pitch for 12 of the 15 goals conceded. Bent is the only one he deliberately dropped, but as others have mentioned, without the injury at Norwich, he probably would have been in the side in at least two of the last three matches. As for Hutton and Warnock, I doubt they would have been any better then Ireland has been. We already have Herd giving away stupid free kicks around the box, why have two other players doing the same.

Agree mostly. Bent though is different. As others have pointed out he's limited but its been pretty obvious there's an agenda to get him out, probably to raise funds, Play to his strengths and he'll score and its nowt to do with players like Downing and young going. Torres had better service than him and couldn't hit a barn door till FSW arrived. Likewise Houllier knew how to get Bent scoring,. I'd take Bent's goals  for 85 minutes looking disintentered because Benteke, Gabby and co haven't got that knack of being prolific scorers. him and wiemann/benteke up front would do me.,

Yes, Bentekes goal average is pathetic considering he has come into a new Country.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #216 on: December 30, 2012, 02:03:25 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager

Nigel has never claimed to be a better fan than anyone, even though he has done more for the rest of us than most.

I said his attitude and stick to that. As for doing more than most of us, I dont quite understand what you mean

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #217 on: December 30, 2012, 02:06:13 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager
I think you need to get out more, he is a decent bloke and a Villa fan.

I get out enough thanks, sorry if I express an opinion different to yours, oh no I am not actually

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #218 on: December 30, 2012, 02:09:22 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager
I think you need to get out more, he is a decent bloke and a Villa fan.

I get out enough thanks, sorry if I express an opinion different to yours, oh no I am not actually
Nigel is a top bloke.I pissed on his shoes in a pub in Manchester one game.He started laughing and got me a pint.A twat he ain't.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #219 on: December 30, 2012, 02:10:23 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager
I think you need to get out more, he is a decent bloke and a Villa fan.

I get out enough thanks, sorry if I express an opinion different to yours, oh no I am not actually
slagging someone off without knowing anything about them seems to suit you,

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #220 on: December 30, 2012, 02:11:11 AM »
As mentioned by others, we have no real alternative to sticking with Lambert. (Suggestions like Alan Curbishley and Roy Keane are parodic.)

Besides, I still think he is a decent manager, though it looks as if he is a bit lost: the current team has so many deficiencies that it is difficult to know where to start. Common sense say that first priority should be to organize and focus on the defence: any team that knows it will concede three or four goals at a minimum will struggle to enter any match with any belief that they can get a point. Sadly, defending, tactics and game plans don't seem to be Paul Lambert's strong point. He should, however, be smart enough to surround himself with people capable of balancing out that particular weakness.



I've been thinking along similar lines recently.

Well, for a large chunk of the season, in fact. 

Lambert does, I feel, have the makings of a decent boss.   But Norwich were one of the worst teams defensively to visit Villa Park last year. And some of our defending this year has been abysmal -even in the games where we haven't been turned over. 

Culverhouse and Karsa started out with him in League One, but maybe that (or the Championship) is their natural level. 

Now wouldn't be the time to be backing drastic changes to the backroom staff but I'd hope- if we do stay up and our defensive record is still atrocious-  Lambert would be brave enough to pot one (or both) of them. 

Like MON, he's more the unofficial Director of Football, making the big calls as far as team selection and transfers are concerned, but leaving the day to day mundane business up to others.  In that case, your coaches need to be exceptional.  I'm not sure ours are.   

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #221 on: December 30, 2012, 02:14:07 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager

Nigel has never claimed to be a better fan than anyone, even though he has done more for the rest of us than most.

I said his attitude and stick to that. As for doing more than most of us, I dont quite understand what you mean

How many supporters have you paid to get into a match when they were skint, bought drinks for, given lifts to and given away tickets because you had a couple of spares?

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #222 on: December 30, 2012, 02:14:27 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager
I think you need to get out more, he is a decent bloke and a Villa fan.

I get out enough thanks, sorry if I express an opinion different to yours, oh no I am not actually
Nigel is a top bloke.I pissed on his shoes in a pub in Manchester one game.He started laughing and got me a pint.A twat he ain't.

Never met him and am sure he wont be fussed if we dont. Suffice to say if you read my initial post in response to BFR or Peter Withe being in charge, would compare that to him. Maybe he does a lot for the club, if I was a multi millionaire, so would I, fair play to him being a Villa fan, but there are lots of Villa fans in this world

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #223 on: December 30, 2012, 02:15:43 AM »
I really respect you Paulie, you know this, but it isn't as if he was picking all the senior players before this so called injury crisis.  Bent couldn't get a game in the league, Ireland was still in and out, Nzogbia pre knee injury was nowhere to be seen, Hutton punted out on loan, Warnock the same, I mean come on, they can't all be shit enough to be played out of th side by the likes of what we have seen today?

And what was your opinion on all of those players last year when the performances were not any better but they did not have the lack of experience as a fall back option.

This year, N'Zog has appeared 11 times, albeit as sub mostly but hasn't shown in those appearances any reason to start him ahead of others before the last three matches. Ireland has been on the pitch for 12 of the 15 goals conceded. Bent is the only one he deliberately dropped, but as others have mentioned, without the injury at Norwich, he probably would have been in the side in at least two of the last three matches. As for Hutton and Warnock, I doubt they would have been any better then Ireland has been. We already have Herd giving away stupid free kicks around the box, why have two other players doing the same.

Agree mostly. Bent though is different. As others have pointed out he's limited but its been pretty obvious there's an agenda to get him out, probably to raise funds, Play to his strengths and he'll score and its nowt to do with players like Downing and young going. Torres had better service than him and couldn't hit a barn door till FSW arrived. Likewise Houllier knew how to get Bent scoring,. I'd take Bent's goals  for 85 minutes looking disintentered because Benteke, Gabby and co haven't got that knack of being prolific scorers. him and wiemann/benteke up front would do me.,

Yes, Bentekes goal average is pathetic considering he has come into a new Country.

he's not that sort of player though.  benteke will never be a goal hanger/poacher type however good a player he becomes. If you've got someone who can knock in 9 goals in 16 games when he's used right, its probably best to use him. Especially if your shipping more than that every 3 games.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #224 on: December 30, 2012, 02:15:56 AM »
BFR or Peter Withe, why not get that twat Nigel Kennedy to take charge. Get a bloody grip

I don't know what Nigel has done to upset you, but he is a Villa supporter who goes out of his way to help other supporters all the time.

Nothing personally to upset me, except his music which I dislike and his I am a better fan than anyone else attitude that comes across, also I dont want him as Villa manager
I think you need to get out more, he is a decent bloke and a Villa fan.

I get out enough thanks, sorry if I express an opinion different to yours, oh no I am not actually
slagging someone off without knowing anything about them seems to suit you,

I said I had never met him, did I say anywhere I didnt know anything about him?

 


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