QPR v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Chipsticks]

It's funny how we all see the game the way we want to.

My old man does this. Every single game Bannan has an absolute nightmare, being completely 'lightweight' and useless, apparently.

[saunders_heroes]

You think Lowton and Westwood are out of their depth?

Yes I do actually. I'm sick to death of seeing them give the ball away with sloppy passing and general poor play. If they're so good, how the hell have we been so shite this season?

You mean the Westwood who has been our best passer of the ball for weeks? And the Lowton who looks every bit a Premiership full back? Strange two to pick out.

They're both out of their depth, and quite a few other players in our team as well. That's why we find ourselves down with the dead beats with the worst Villa team in years and years. Delude yourself as much as you like, but this club is only going in one direction with these type of players in it, and trust me, it ain't up.

They're both more suited to this level than some of the dross we've had in our shirt in recent years.

Of course they are. Perhaps that league table is upside down...

I suppose you're right.. our league position is the fault of just Westy & Lowton..

They've certainly played their part.

They have indeed. Very well, too. Westwood has been a standout and has been fantastic on the ball - so it's strange to see you blast him for constantly giving it away.. Is his ~90% passing accuracy not good enough?

Stats can be manipulated anyway you want. He gave the ball away left right and centre against Reading the other night, yet some on here claimed he had a decent game. They must have watch the game whilst smoking a crack pipe to come up with that conclusion.

Or, more likely, you don't bother watching  what's going on and throw wild statements about using foul language as a way of backing up your point.

What does, "throw wild statements about using foul language" mean?

And yes, I do watch the Villa. I've had a season ticket for 30+ years. Don't throw that daft accusation at me. Just because I believe the club is destined for relegation if we don't change our policy of investing in lower league rubbish doesn't mean I don't follow the club.

[saunders_heroes]

It's funny how we all see the game the way we want to.

My old man does this. Every single game Bannan has an absolute nightmare, being completely 'lightweight' and useless, apparently.

Sounds like your dad's got his head screwed on.

[dave.woodhall]

We've had two players regularly in the team lately who were signed from the lower divisions. It takes a very vivid imagination to call them 'rubbish.'

[Summers]

I don't think how many years you've had a season ticket has anything to do with the fact you've said Westwood gave the ball away "left, right and centre" in a game where he misplaced 5 passes. It's perfectly fine to be unhappy with our performances & position. & even Lambert's policy on transfers. However picking out two that  have settled well and are impressing just seems odd - especially when you seem intent on saying Westwood can't pass a ball. It's just odd.

[saunders_heroes]

We've had two players regularly in the team lately who were signed from the lower divisions. It takes a very vivid imagination to call them 'rubbish.'

And you've spent most of this season talking them up, yet week in week out we churn out diabolical performances. So you're a fine one to talk about vivid imaginations.

[Percy McCarthy]

I agree that investing in lower-league rubbish isn't a good idea. I can't agree that Lowton and Westwood are lower-league rubbish, however. We'll see I guess.

Don't you think results have improved since Westwood got his first start at Sunderland?

[ozzjim]

We've had two players regularly in the team lately who were signed from the lower divisions. It takes a very vivid imagination to call them 'rubbish.'

And you've spent most of this season talking them up, yet week in week out we churn out diabolical performances. So you're a fine one to talk about vivid imaginations.

Are you sticking with the mantra that Westwood can't pass?

[saunders_heroes]

I don't think how many years you've had a season ticket has anything to do with the fact you've said Westwood gave the ball away "left, right and centre" in a game where he misplaced 5 passes. It's perfectly fine to be unhappy with our performances & position. & even Lambert's policy on transfers. However picking out two that  have settled well and are impressing just seems odd - especially when you seem intent on saying Westwood can't pass a ball. It's just odd.

When you claim those players have "settled well", its just your opinion. Just like my opinion which is that they haven't. If these players are so good, why are we so bad?

[saunders_heroes]

We've had two players regularly in the team lately who were signed from the lower divisions. It takes a very vivid imagination to call them 'rubbish.'

And you've spent most of this season talking them up, yet week in week out we churn out diabolical performances. So you're a fine one to talk about vivid imaginations.

Are you sticking with the mantra that Westwood can't pass?

Yes.

[Summers]

A league table of the last six games would have us 12th (I think). That doesn't sound diabolical, things have got better recently.

[ozzjim]

We've had two players regularly in the team lately who were signed from the lower divisions. It takes a very vivid imagination to call them 'rubbish.'

And you've spent most of this season talking them up, yet week in week out we churn out diabolical performances. So you're a fine one to talk about vivid imaginations.

Are you sticking with the mantra that Westwood can't pass?

Yes.

Just to try and understand then. What do you consider a pass?

[Pat McMahon]

I suppose that Harry's first home game meant this was not going to be easy for us, but we need to be more positive. We started well but  after the first 20 mins QPR were much the better team. For me, only Guzan, Benteke ( in the first half) and Westwood performed well. Delph helped shore up an overrun midfield when he came on too. I was very concerned by Lichaj, and Holman, his goal excepted.

A problem is that we lose to the top teams and we say it is inevitable, we lost to Southampton and it was a freak, we draw at QPR and it was to be expected as it was Harry's first game at home. We need to be more confident of getting wins from games - hopefully 5 points this week is a platform on which to build. And unbeaten runs build confidence.......

I was chatting to a Fulham fan after the game and he said that he thought we had enough ability to stay up. That was worrying.

[Summers]

I don't think how many years you've had a season ticket has anything to do with the fact you've said Westwood gave the ball away "left, right and centre" in a game where he misplaced 5 passes. It's perfectly fine to be unhappy with our performances & position. & even Lambert's policy on transfers. However picking out two that  have settled well and are impressing just seems odd - especially when you seem intent on saying Westwood can't pass a ball. It's just odd.

When you claim those players have "settled well", its just your opinion. Just like my opinion which is that they haven't. If these players are so good, why are we so bad?

We're not a two man team. Lowton & Westwood haven't really put a foot wrong. It's players like Gabby, Bent, N'Zogbia & Ireland who should be doing much better. The experienced players haven't played anywhere near the level they should.

We've had two players regularly in the team lately who were signed from the lower divisions. It takes a very vivid imagination to call them 'rubbish.'

And you've spent most of this season talking them up, yet week in week out we churn out diabolical performances. So you're a fine one to talk about vivid imaginations.

Are you sticking with the mantra that Westwood can't pass?

Yes.

& you're so far wrong it's painful.

[Percy McCarthy]

A pass is something he'd say a lot on Mastermind if his specialist subject was football.