QPR v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[saunders_heroes]

You think Lowton and Westwood are out of their depth?

Yes I do actually. I'm sick to death of seeing them give the ball away with sloppy passing and general poor play. If they're so good, how the hell have we been so shite this season?

You mean the Westwood who has been our best passer of the ball for weeks? And the Lowton who looks every bit a Premiership full back? Strange two to pick out.

They're both out of their depth, and quite a few other players in our team as well. That's why we find ourselves down with the dead beats with the worst Villa team in years and years. Delude yourself as much as you like, but this club is only going in one direction with these type of players in it, and trust me, it ain't up.

They're both more suited to this level than some of the dross we've had in our shirt in recent years.

Of course they are. Perhaps that league table is upside down...

I suppose you're right.. our league position is the fault of just Westy & Lowton..

They've certainly played their part.

[saunders_heroes]

It was particularly sickening the way Westwood gave the ball away to Holman for his goal, and how Lowton gave the ball away to Benteke for his disallowed one.

Wow! Surely now we've turned the corner!

[Percy McCarthy]

So do you think Benteke and Guzan are shit as well, as they're also members of a struggling team?

[ktvillan]

Glad of a point but it looked  as if Lambert had a touch of the TSMs with his second half subs.  We should be looking to win games like this, not just desperately hold on. 

I admire his bravery in giving youngsters a chance but I'd have hoped he'd have introduced Ireland and/or Bent and gone for it a bit more.  We seemed content to just knock the ball around sideways when we had it second half. Frustrating.

I remain unconvinced by PL, he hits on a good combination and then proceeds to bugger about with it all over the shop. Some very odd selections and tactics.

But we weren't hanging on. If anything we were looking more likely to snatch it.

Can you imagine what this site would have been like if he'd put Bent and Ireland on and we'd lost? I thought the substitutions were good and improved us. Not to say I wasn't surprised by them.

No you're right we weren't hanging on, wrong phrase, but we did seem to stop trying to win second half - our attacks were few and far between, and bringing on Delph and KEA was basically saying we'd settle for the point.   I suppose he did protect the point when it looked a little shaky, but I guess I just expected a bit more of Lambert.  I think if he'd just introduced Ireland to try and bring Benteke back into the game we could have won it.   We look woefully short of invention up front at times.

[Summers]

You think Lowton and Westwood are out of their depth?

Yes I do actually. I'm sick to death of seeing them give the ball away with sloppy passing and general poor play. If they're so good, how the hell have we been so shite this season?

You mean the Westwood who has been our best passer of the ball for weeks? And the Lowton who looks every bit a Premiership full back? Strange two to pick out.

They're both out of their depth, and quite a few other players in our team as well. That's why we find ourselves down with the dead beats with the worst Villa team in years and years. Delude yourself as much as you like, but this club is only going in one direction with these type of players in it, and trust me, it ain't up.

They're both more suited to this level than some of the dross we've had in our shirt in recent years.

Of course they are. Perhaps that league table is upside down...

I suppose you're right.. our league position is the fault of just Westy & Lowton..

They've certainly played their part.

They have indeed. Very well, too. Westwood has been a standout and has been fantastic on the ball - so it's strange to see you blast him for constantly giving it away.. Is his ~90% passing accuracy not good enough?

[saunders_heroes]

So do you think Benteke and Guzan are shit as well, as they're also members of a struggling team?

Guzan has had a decent season so far, but goalies in struggling sides do tend to make an awful lot of saves mainly because they get more practise at it. Benteke looks decent, but he's hardly a prolific scorer. As for all the other players... Well they're pretty much dross in my opinion. That's why we find ourselves in the shit.

[ozzjim]

He's apologised.

Personally, it wouldn't bother me. I send women to Dion Dublin to prepare them for me.

You are the bloke that puts his whole head in aren't you?

[saunders_heroes]

You think Lowton and Westwood are out of their depth?

Yes I do actually. I'm sick to death of seeing them give the ball away with sloppy passing and general poor play. If they're so good, how the hell have we been so shite this season?

You mean the Westwood who has been our best passer of the ball for weeks? And the Lowton who looks every bit a Premiership full back? Strange two to pick out.

They're both out of their depth, and quite a few other players in our team as well. That's why we find ourselves down with the dead beats with the worst Villa team in years and years. Delude yourself as much as you like, but this club is only going in one direction with these type of players in it, and trust me, it ain't up.

They're both more suited to this level than some of the dross we've had in our shirt in recent years.

Of course they are. Perhaps that league table is upside down...

I suppose you're right.. our league position is the fault of just Westy & Lowton..

They've certainly played their part.

They have indeed. Very well, too. Westwood has been a standout and has been fantastic on the ball - so it's strange to see you blast him for constantly giving it away.. Is his ~90% passing accuracy not good enough?

Stats can be manipulated anyway you want. He gave the ball away left right and centre against Reading the other night, yet some on here claimed he had a decent game. They must have watch the game whilst smoking a crack pipe to come up with that conclusion.

[ozzjim]

So do you think Benteke and Guzan are shit as well, as they're also members of a struggling team?

Guzan has had a decent season so far, but goalies in struggling sides do tend to make an awful lot of saves mainly because they get more practise at it. Benteke looks decent, but he's hardly a prolific scorer. As for all the other players... Well they're pretty much dross in my opinion. That's why we find ourselves in the shit.

I bet you a tenner Westwood goes on to play for England, and I will go double or quits on Lowton.

[Mazrim]

Lowton and Westwood are not out of their depth. Not based on what I've seen so far.

[ozzjim]

You think Lowton and Westwood are out of their depth?

Yes I do actually. I'm sick to death of seeing them give the ball away with sloppy passing and general poor play. If they're so good, how the hell have we been so shite this season?

You mean the Westwood who has been our best passer of the ball for weeks? And the Lowton who looks every bit a Premiership full back? Strange two to pick out.

They're both out of their depth, and quite a few other players in our team as well. That's why we find ourselves down with the dead beats with the worst Villa team in years and years. Delude yourself as much as you like, but this club is only going in one direction with these type of players in it, and trust me, it ain't up.

They're both more suited to this level than some of the dross we've had in our shirt in recent years.

Of course they are. Perhaps that league table is upside down...

I suppose you're right.. our league position is the fault of just Westy & Lowton..

They've certainly played their part.

They have indeed. Very well, too. Westwood has been a standout and has been fantastic on the ball - so it's strange to see you blast him for constantly giving it away.. Is his ~90% passing accuracy not good enough?

Stats can be manipulated anyway you want. He gave the ball away left right and centre against Reading the other night, yet some on here claimed he had a decent game. They must have watch the game whilst smoking a crack pipe to come up with that conclusion.

He gave the ball away less than 5 times in the game against Reading. Left right and centre. Once early on that was a poor pass and once in a good position second half, because both times shocked me it was him, he has been so accurate. I think the crack pipe might be in your hands chap.

[Drummond]

You think Lowton and Westwood are out of their depth?

Yes I do actually. I'm sick to death of seeing them give the ball away with sloppy passing and general poor play. If they're so good, how the hell have we been so shite this season?

You mean the Westwood who has been our best passer of the ball for weeks? And the Lowton who looks every bit a Premiership full back? Strange two to pick out.

They're both out of their depth, and quite a few other players in our team as well. That's why we find ourselves down with the dead beats with the worst Villa team in years and years. Delude yourself as much as you like, but this club is only going in one direction with these type of players in it, and trust me, it ain't up.

They're both more suited to this level than some of the dross we've had in our shirt in recent years.

Of course they are. Perhaps that league table is upside down...

I suppose you're right.. our league position is the fault of just Westy & Lowton..

They've certainly played their part.

They have indeed. Very well, too. Westwood has been a standout and has been fantastic on the ball - so it's strange to see you blast him for constantly giving it away.. Is his ~90% passing accuracy not good enough?

Stats can be manipulated anyway you want. He gave the ball away left right and centre against Reading the other night, yet some on here claimed he had a decent game. They must have watch the game whilst smoking a crack pipe to come up with that conclusion.

Or, more likely, you don't bother watching  what's going on and throw wild statements about using foul language as a way of backing up your point.

[OCD]

It's funny how we all see the game the way we want to.

[FrankyH]

I was prepared to give TSM a chance last year, more fool me me.I think the Bolton game was the tipping point - clapping the the Trinity Road as he walked off.(I was in the North Stand-good view)

I can't believe the negative attitude towards a group of young players, who granted are making their fair share of mistakes that Paul Lambert's bought/promoted. I would rather run with it long term for the " greater good"
Anyone who's unhappy PL , who you do want?. Would he do any better, and would they come to Villa?

[ChrissyPrice]

I went today and he problems weren't Lowton and Westwood. And those substitutions got us a point.