QPR v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Dan England]

Glad of a point but it looked  as if Lambert had a touch of the TSMs with his second half subs.  We should be looking to win games like this, not just desperately hold on. 

I admire his bravery in giving youngsters a chance but I'd have hoped he'd have introduced Ireland and/or Bent and gone for it a bit more.  We seemed content to just knock the ball around sideways when we had it second half. Frustrating.

I remain unconvinced by PL, he hits on a good combination and then proceeds to bugger about with it all over the shop. Some very odd selections and tactics.

But we weren't hanging on. If anything we were looking more likely to snatch it.

Can you imagine what this site would have been like if he'd put Bent and Ireland on and we'd lost? I thought the substitutions were good and improved us. Not to say I wasn't surprised by them.

[PeterWithesShin]

No RipVan but lets wake up to 21st century football, unless you want to start a campaign to find a multi billionaire who like Roman wants to spunk his money down the drain, maybe we are not what we like to sing  "Were by far the greatest team the world has ever seen", only once in 46 years of watching the Villa has that been the case, now we are were we are and supporting the manager just maybe the way of getting us out of this mess, remember those manure fans who were telling the red nose wanker he was an arse hole after 25 minutes at Forest that cup game, patience might just pay off.   If not and he keeps us up sack him if we are in the same place next year

Ferguson had finished second in the league with them before that season, which people like you tend to forget.

They also finished 11th and 13th after that second place and if I remember right were fairly close to the drop zone by the time of that cup match at Forest. We'll never how close he was to the sack but he was certainly under pressure for a while until he won the FA Cup. Including from the fans, although it remains quite hard to find one who will admit it.

Mmmmmm, winning the FA Cup, if only...........

[pbavfckuwait]

Right some of Lamberts decisions have been dubious, but when we are where we are what are we to do, sack him, for doing what all of us have been saying or the majority on here, get rid of the journey men, how many on here were saying look around this country at lower league players, look abroad for bargains, so we get a Manager that does and the crowd is shouting get experience in, ok but lets get them in on loan, not on long term Heskey, Warnock contracts, let us see what happens in January which I dont think will be much, but lets please not lose faith , I am miles away I look for you guys to give them my voice, because miles or not, Villa are and always will be the love of my life . 

[Matt C]

In the circumstances, a decent point.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

As far as I know, NOBODY is advocating sacking him.
Questioning his decisions, yes.
Big difference.

[PaulWinch again]

Nobody is saying sack Lambert, of course we shouldn't sack him. However he needs to start involving Bent and in January he needs to sign some experienced quality, because as well as some of the young players have done we can't rely on them all season.

[eamonn]

Right some of Lamberts decisions have been dubious, but when we are where we are what are we to do, sack him, for doing what all of us have been saying or the majority on here, get rid of the journey men, how many on here were saying look around this country at lower league players, look abroad for bargains, so we get a Manager that does and the crowd is shouting get experience in, ok but lets get them in on loan, not on long term Heskey, Warnock contracts, let us see what happens in January which I dont think will be much, but lets please not lose faith , I am miles away I look for you guys to give them my voice, because miles or not, Villa are and always will be the love of my life . 

 

[Matt C]

How did the latest one of the production line, Williams do?

[The Situation]

Guys how did we play second half? Only been listening to the radio very briefly. Who played well for us.

It's a decent point away from home with 'Arrys first home game for QPR where there would of been geed up for it.

Just looking at the table its getting close now. Only 3 points off Fulham

[pbavfckuwait]

No they dont say sack him, but they say no improvement from last year, if this was Mcleish or O Dreary he wouldnt get away with that, they cant say sack him, because then we  maybe accused of being fickle.
Lets involve Bent, maybe just maybe we are getting these points at the moment because all 10 outfield players are chasing, harassing, giving there all, but how many times on here have we heard and quite correctly, if we dont supply Bent he might as well not be on the pitch, he offers nothing and yes in our lack of supply system at the moment he would offer nothing, so maybe for the benefit of the team we have to leave him out, he is a goal scorer but not a football player of note.

[Jarpie]

How did the latest one of the production line, Williams do?

He did pretty well and wasn't in that much of trouble. Did better than I expected.

[James]

Re streams, we have made the rules very clear, and people will discuss what they are watching. If others want to watch there are ways if you google it, but we are not going to post links on the site!

The rules aren't clear about whether links can be shared in PMs between individuals.

Then just exchange them with your pals by email, take the site out of it!

UTV!

[eastie]

Re streams, we have made the rules very clear, and people will discuss what they are watching. If others want to watch there are ways if you google it, but we are not going to post links on the site!

The rules aren't clear about whether links can be shared in PMs between individuals.

Then just exchange them with your pals by email, take the site out of it!

UTV!

Who would know anyway  if people exchanged links in private messages?
There is a big difference in posting links on a public thread to in a private message .

[PeterWithesShin]

From the OS

Brett Holman's first Villa goal earned a point in a testing encounter against QPR at Loftus Road.

The Australia international was on target with a superb eighth-minute shot from just outside the penalty area, only for Jamie Mackie to bring the Londoners level 10 minutes later.

It was always going to be a difficult afternoon as Harry Redknapp took charge of Rangers at home for the first time and Villa barely threatened in the second half.

But manager Paul Lambert's decision to operate a three-man central defence paid dividends as Villa extended their unbeaten run to three games.

For all that, the visitors were grateful to some excellent saves by Brad Guzan and Rangers also hit the woodwork on a couple of occasions.

Even before the early breakthrough, Villa had underlined their intentions, Christian Benteke's sheer persistence enabling him to regain possession before hitting a shot which was blocked.

And a minute later the visitors were in front, Holman bringing Ashley Westwood's short pass under control just outside the penalty area before unleashing a superb left-foot half-volley.

Robert Green managed to get his hands to the ball but could only push it against his left-hand post and into the net.

Eric Lichaj then fired well over after following good work by Matt Lowton but on 18 minutes Rangers were level, Mackie meeting Samba Diakite's cross from the right with a glancing header which drifted beyond Guzan's reach and into the corner of the net.

Benteke thought he had restored the lead when he headed home Lowton's deep cross a couple of minutes later, only to be denied by an offside decision, while Nathan Baker ventured forward to head over from a Barry Bannan corner.

Villa, though, had two let-offs either side of the half hour mark.

First, Guzan rushed out to save with his feet after Shaun Wright-Phillips had raced clear through the middle and then the Rangers winger sent a tremendous right-foot drive crashing against the post.

There was a lengthy delay when Stephane Mbia went down near the centre-circle and was clearly in considerable distress.

The midfielder was eventually carried off on a stretcher and replaced by Shaun Derry in the 38th minute.

Holman's superb reverse pass to Gabby Agbonlahor set up the next chance, the striker's curling low shot being pushed away by Green before the home side got the ball clear.

Mbia's injury resulted in seven minutes of first half stoppage time which produced little real attacking menace, although Villa came under heavy pressure early in the second period.

In one sustained spell, Wright-Phillips had one shot deflected for a corner by Baker and another saved by Guzan, who also did well to palm away Nelsen's hooked shot.

The keeper came to the rescue again in the 55th minute, this time pushing away a rising drive from sub Ji-Sung Park.

In the 66th minute, Lambert sent on Derrick Williams for his Villa debut as part of a defensive reshuffle.

The Republic of Ireland youngster went on for Chris Herd, but took up the left wing-back position, with Eric Lichaj switching to the right and Lowton moving inside to occupy the position vacated by Herd.

It was increasingly a rearguard action by the visitors and there was further relief when Guzan tipped Nelsen's 79th-minute header on to the woodwork.

Yet Villa almost grabbed a winner in the 89th minute, sub Karim El Ahmadi shooting not far wide after Agbonlahor had played the ball across the penalty area.

[Toronto Villa]

I know that I shouldn't be angry at today's result, and maybe it's a culmination of a lot of things over the past few years, but I'm just do tired of settling for a point or second best in too many games in recent memory. Just tired of not having the bravery to go for it especially in games we should always be trying to win. I'm tired of the weird or nonsensical press conferences from the last 4 managers that claim attacking intent and the game is exactly the opposite.

I know, I know there is a process in place. Lambert who I wanted I am sure has a plan. That plan only includes his players and we might as well get used to some the current lot not being a part of the future. The process might 2 years to put in place. But added to the past 3, the thought of more of these kinds of games is deflating. I need a stiff drink to shaking myself of this because I try to look at the positives all the time. Getting tougher though.