Thinking The Unthinkable

[Risso]

At least we're top of the footy fan quote fail table!

[hawkeye]

If the question is, might we have been better off under TSM? the answer is a resounding NO.
2 Reasons.
1. The negativity at VP was for me on the occaisions I went at an all time low, you could feel the energy being sucked out of the place.
2. His brand of football I called it "Surrender Football" was limiting the ability of the team and was adding to 1 above.

That is not to say that I dont have some sypathy for the view that his job as he saw it was to survive and give him that one bit of credit, we are still a PL club. Not sure if we will be next season though.

[SirSteveUK]

To whoever posted the "We will end up just making up the numbers"  - no point complaining about a FACT of Premier League life  - we are accompanied by another 15 teams who will never win the League - EVER.

And there are probably only 7 teams who will fill the top 4 places too.....Newcastle nearly managed it last season - and they don't look like they have progressed do they?

I KNOW that I will never see Villa win the League (again) in my lifetime - or my son's

That doesn't mean we can't achieve some limited success in the future.

[Brian Taylor]

To whoever posted the "We will end up just making up the numbers"  - no point complaining about a FACT of Premier League life  - we are accompanied by another 15 teams who will never win the League - EVER.

And there are probably only 7 teams who will fill the top 4 places too.....Newcastle nearly managed it last season - and they don't look like they have progressed do they?


I KNOW that I will never see Villa win the League (again) in my lifetime - or my son's

That doesn't mean we can't achieve some limited success in the future.

Harsh comment but I tend to agree given present circs. How old is Randy? Not in his lifetime or his son's either!!

[supertom]

I look at the table and it's worrying. The teams above us, maybe Reading aside, all have the ability to go on a good run. Martinez has pulled out results when called upon at Wigan and could easily do that again. O Neills a cock but he's always had the ability to have a strong run of results with his teams. He can build momentum. I don't think Sunderland will be struggling in 3 months time to be honest. Stoke have the ability to unsettle and pick up surprise results. I think as fuck ugly as their brand of football is, I don't foresee them getting relegated on it unless some of their better players move on. Adam is settling quite well now too and Crouch will grab a few goals too.

My biggest worry is probably QPR. They're a joke of a club but there's money there. They have some decent players. If they sack Hughes and get in a manager capable of bringing the squad together and getting the best out of them, they could go on a run.

As for making up the numbers. It is true. But a minimum expectation for this club should be that we're making up the numbers in the top 10. Unfortunately we've sold and bought so shabbily in recent years and had a firesale mentalitiy, that's no left us with a piss poor squad. Most of our first 11 are the sort of players who should be second choices, even third at this level. Our better players are either too inconsistent, don't care, aren't being used right or just struggling for form.

[Irish villain]

I detest what football has become. I detest some of the things I read when I type Aston Villa into google news.

Fucktards.

[MarkM]

Just a quick pause for thought, if we are to survive this season it may be worth having a look at how the clubs in a similar position to us got on in the past few season:

2009/10 Season - October 24th Weekend - Bottom 3
Hull                 [Relegated]
West Ham      [Survived but see next season] [Burnley Relegated]
Portsmouth    [Relegated]

2010/11 Season - October 24th Weekend - Bottom 3
Liverpool   [Survived]
Wolves      [Survived on the last day] [Blues relegated]
West Ham [Relegated]

2011/12 Season - October 24th Weekend - Bottom 3
Bolton       [Relegated]
Wigan       [Survived] [Wolves Relegated]
Blackburn  [Relegated]

The stats suggest that over the past three seasons 55% of those teams in the bottom three at this point of the season get relegated.

And two of those who survived West Ham and Wolves, both got relegated soon after.

Thats 77% of those teams in or around the bottom three at this time of the year get relegated that season or very soon after

So I think we should all be concerned about what is happening now

[Percy McCarthy]

I'm a bit worried about this season, but if we survive I'd have no worries at all about next.

[fbriai]

I am an optimist by nature, but I'm a bit worried about us this season. I think it's the goal difference as much as anything.

Buying so many young players from the lower leagues in the summer was a gamble. Fingers-crossed it pays off. A good win against the Arsenal would do us a world of good at the moment.

[danlanza]

I am always optimistic about Villa aswell. I know it is early in the season and i am still optimistic, just very worried about our current position in the table.
It makes me very uncomfortable to see us down there, even more uncomfortable to see those Tesco bag wearing tossers 4th in the league. Unbelievable.

[not3bad]

I still think we will get out of it we just need a couple of result's then we will be ok.

Agreed.

[andyh]

I still think we will get out of it we just need a couple of result's then we will be ok.

Agreed.

yep, its that simple.

[Boz]

I still think we will get out of it we just need a couple of result's then we will be ok.

Agreed.

Getting them however, may be a major problem 

[Big Dick Edwards]

Perhaps TSM accepted that the constraints placed upon him by the board and the owner made attractive football impossible and he just got us to hunker down and survive and we made it - just.

I supported this viewpoint all along. McLeish's season at Villa will be better judged next May, rather than last.

I do like Lambert and I think he'll ultimately do well for us but the forthcoming Reading and QPR games are going to be huge.

[midnite]

I'm a bit worried about this season, but if we survive I'd have no worries at all about next.

Trouble is, most of us were thinking that last season!!