Quote from: Dave on July 27, 2015, 02:09:09 PMQuote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:02:05 PMAgreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.A lot of my memory of the Enckleman time is a bit fuzzy, but with Carson I'm not sure that he really went down hill - I don't remember him being anything other than mediocre for us. As I recall it was a bit of a shock that he was picked for that Croatia game based on his form at the time.Aside from that game for England, my entire recollection of his time at Villa is that every time an opponent had a shot or free kick 40 yards or closer it was a goal.
Quote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:02:05 PMAgreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.A lot of my memory of the Enckleman time is a bit fuzzy, but with Carson I'm not sure that he really went down hill - I don't remember him being anything other than mediocre for us. As I recall it was a bit of a shock that he was picked for that Croatia game based on his form at the time.
Agreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.
Quote from: Dave on July 27, 2015, 12:35:38 PMWe could do worse, but maybe there is something in his really good performances being in lost causes.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2015, 02:11:29 PMQuote from: Dave on July 27, 2015, 02:09:09 PMQuote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:02:05 PMAgreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.A lot of my memory of the Enckleman time is a bit fuzzy, but with Carson I'm not sure that he really went down hill - I don't remember him being anything other than mediocre for us. As I recall it was a bit of a shock that he was picked for that Croatia game based on his form at the time.Aside from that game for England, my entire recollection of his time at Villa is that every time an opponent had a shot or free kick 40 yards or closer it was a goal.One other specific one - the game at Fratton Park where he came charging out of his goal only to smash the ball into Nigel Reo-Coker's shins and watch the ball dribble into our net from around 35 yards.
Quote from: Dave on July 27, 2015, 02:09:09 PMQuote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:02:05 PMAgreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.A lot of my memory of the Enckleman time is a bit fuzzy, but with Carson I'm not sure that he really went down hill - I don't remember him being anything other than mediocre for us. As I recall it was a bit of a shock that he was picked for that Croatia game based on his form at the time.It's easy to forget as that was nearly 8 years ago, blimey how time flies eh? But looking back, he'd only played 10 games for us before the two Autumn England games, and my recollection was that he'd been doing very well. He'd kept five clean sheets out of 10, and we were 7th in the table with a game in hand.There was the Harewood 4-4 with Spuds, and he'd been ridiculously sent off v Man U, but on the whole I vaguely recall us all mostly being pleased with him, and that he deserved his England call up alongside others like Barry and Ashley Young.
Quote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:40:58 PMQuote from: Dave on July 27, 2015, 02:09:09 PMQuote from: Risso on July 27, 2015, 02:02:05 PMAgreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.A lot of my memory of the Enckleman time is a bit fuzzy, but with Carson I'm not sure that he really went down hill - I don't remember him being anything other than mediocre for us. As I recall it was a bit of a shock that he was picked for that Croatia game based on his form at the time.It's easy to forget as that was nearly 8 years ago, blimey how time flies eh? But looking back, he'd only played 10 games for us before the two Autumn England games, and my recollection was that he'd been doing very well. He'd kept five clean sheets out of 10, and we were 7th in the table with a game in hand.There was the Harewood 4-4 with Spuds, and he'd been ridiculously sent off v Man U, but on the whole I vaguely recall us all mostly being pleased with him, and that he deserved his England call up alongside others like Barry and Ashley Young.You're probably right - might be the rubbish in the second half of the season overwriting the good stuff from the start from my head.5 clean sheets in his first 10 games clearly isn't bad at all.
I'm not sure if this needs a new thread, but his problems with distribution have really reached a farcical level now, have they not? It wasn't just the second goal either - he'd already made a couple of poor kicks and put the fullbacks into awkward positions prior to that; and his kicking at Bournemouth wasn't good either. If GK distribution is important to how Sherwood wants to play, he can't persist with Guzan despite his other qualities; if distribution isn't that big a deal, he should basically be told to belt it upfield every single time.It's a shame because I thought he commanded his box well and looked secure the couple of times he was faced with a shot he could actually save.