Stephen Ireland

[Goldie.7]

Missing the point yet again. It's a mistake because hindsight shows he was shit for us. Virtually no one thought it was a mistake at the time. Read the signing thread and then tell me how many were against it and thought it was a mistake.

Where is that thread i was looking for it earlier.

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=39825.0

Thank you.

[PeterWithesShin]

I have no problem with us completing a deal that was 95% done at the time the manager threw his toys out the pram and went off in a strop. For all we know KMac and other coaches could have said to the board we should complete the deal.

If Ireland had been the player you thought he would be would it still be a mistake? Virtually no one said it was a mistake until they realised he was going to be crap for us.

[PeterWithesShin]

Missing the point yet again. It's a mistake because hindsight shows he was shit for us. Virtually no one thought it was a mistake at the time. Read the signing thread and then tell me how many were against it and thought it was a mistake.

Where is that thread i was looking for it earlier.

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=39825.0

Yep, we were all completely conned by the fucking waster.

Rich nailed it at the time, "the new Sasa Curcic" both players had the ability to be big players for us, we very rarely saw it though and it is relief all round when they are no longer Villa players.

[eastie]

I have no problem with us completing a deal that was 95% done at the time the manager threw his toys out the pram and went off in a strop. For all we know KMac and other coaches could have said to the board we should complete the deal.

If Ireland had been the player you thought he would be would it still be a mistake? Virtually no one said it was a mistake until they realised he was going to be crap for us.

If we had got half out of him that he showed at city then he would have been a revelation so he wouldn't have been a mistake .

It seems he and houllier were never suited to each other though and things went downhill from there - its a shame we never got the best from him as he's the kind of player we have lacked for years.

[PeterWithesShin]

Anyway, back to my filum. Goodnight, evening, morning etc wherever you are.

[eastie]

Anyway, back to my filum. Goodnight, evening, morning etc wherever you are.

Yes back to bed - goodnight and enjoy your film pws.

[brontebilly]

I have no problem with us completing a deal that was 95% done at the time the manager threw his toys out the pram and went off in a strop. For all we know KMac and other coaches could have said to the board we should complete the deal.

If Ireland had been the player you thought he would be would it still be a mistake? Virtually no one said it was a mistake until they realised he was going to be crap for us.

Buying a player without a manager in place was asking for trouble.  despite what Krulak and his army of sycophants on here were saying at the time. Still if we had sold him after his player of the year season probably would have got 4m or so for him.

Considering our money troubles it really hasn't helped having the likes of Dunne, Hutton, Warnock, Ireland, Bent running down their contracts to a point where we will get nothing for them. Seems like he is taking the same approach with Nzogbia. I think that is self defeating to be honest and the bomb squad antics last summer were immature really.

[Malandro]

nothing to be smug about, but I did ask the General a few times who was buying Ireland.

[eastie]

nothing to be smug about, but I did ask the General a few times who was buying Ireland.

Were you referred to nicola Keye ?

[eamonn]

The alarm bells should have rung when Houlier quickly sussed him out. Ireland had/has the technical prowess that GHou would surely have relished and yet he singled him out for not trying hard enough within weeks of taking charge.

As an aside, has Houllier said much about his time at the club in interviews since he had to leave the post? Given his oft-outspoken nature it would be interesting to hear about the squad-staff fight and the attitude he faced from the MON players in his brief reign.

[Merv]

I thought he was a good signing at the time. Felt Milner's industry would be covered by Petrov, NRC & Sidwell, and Ireland would bring the flair. Got it wrong.

However well he does for Stoke, I won't feel regret he's left us. He was close to anonymous for three years. He has already commented that he's playing for his future with his contract up in the summer. That's his motivation this season.

[mike]

.despite what Krulak and his army of sycophants on here were saying at the time.

 despite what Krulak and his army of sycophants on here were saying at the time.
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It used to really nark me how everyone had to call him sir and there were pages of recriminations one time when someone refused to do so.

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I hate respect in society. I was saying the other day, if there is one thing we need less of, its people showing respect.

[Mister E]

However well he does for Stoke, I won't feel regret he's left us.

And Stoke are playing him very differently: he is supporting the striker there (as Charlie Adam did when he came on against us), with a free role. I never felt we really used him properly ....


... not that I like him - IMO, he represents all that's bad about P'ship football.

[eastie]

.despite what Krulak and his army of sycophants on here were saying at the time.

 despite what Krulak and his army of sycophants on here were saying at the time.

It used to really nark me how everyone had to call him sir and there were pages of recriminations one time when someone refused to do so.
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I never called him sir and can't recollect that at all - I thought he seemed ok to approach - who called him sir?