Stephen Ireland

[OzVilla]

£60,000.
I simply can not comprehend how that happened.

We signed him when we didn't have a manager and the player asked for exorbitant wages as he didn't want to come in the first place - stupidly we signed him anyway.

Two lessons to be learned.

Never sign players when you don't have a permanent manager and never sign players are not 100%  keen on joining.

Not the Clubs finest hour.

[Pat McMahon]

Agreed Ozvilla. Signing a player when you have no manager just seems plain batshit to me. Who even decided we wanted him?

[PeterWithesShin]

£60,000.
I simply can not comprehend how that happened.

We signed him when we didn't have a manager and the player asked for exorbitant wages as he didn't want to come in the first place - stupidly we signed him anyway.

Two lessons to be learned.

Never sign players when you don't have a permanent manager and never sign players are not 100%  keen on joining.

Not the Clubs finest hour.

It is easy with hindsight. There were very few complaints on here at the time, indeed many thought we had absolutely mugged City and were delighted to get Ireland.

[OzVilla]

£60,000.
I simply can not comprehend how that happened.

We signed him when we didn't have a manager and the player asked for exorbitant wages as he didn't want to come in the first place - stupidly we signed him anyway.

Two lessons to be learned.

Never sign players when you don't have a permanent manager and never sign players are not 100%  keen on joining.

Not the Clubs finest hour.

It is easy with hindsight. There were very few complaints on here at the time, indeed many thought we had absolutely mugged City and were delighted to get Ireland.

Well as soon as he said we didn't want to leave Citeh I certainly said we should end our interest and I know I wasn't the only one.

I just hope we learn from it.  Only then will his time here have been worth anything.

[robbo1874]

It's the 60k a week that sticks in the throat. If he was on 5k I'd still be disappointed in his attitude and the way he conducted himself as a Villa player, but it would have been nowhere near as bad. Absolute tosser.

When you think about your own job and what value you add to your company compared to the reward you get, twats like Ireland really twist your melons.

[PeterWithesShin]

Well as soon as he said we didn't want to leave Citeh I certainly said we should end our interest and I know I wasn't the only one.

I just hope we learn from it.  Only then will his time here have been worth anything.

I was never a fan of him, but that isn't the point. The vast majority on here were delighted to get him. You only have to look at his signing thread to see it. So when most would have signed him and thought it was a great move it's hard to then blame the club for signing him.

[eastie]

Well as soon as he said we didn't want to leave Citeh I certainly said we should end our interest and I know I wasn't the only one.

I just hope we learn from it.  Only then will his time here have been worth anything.

I was never a fan of him, but that isn't the point. The vast majority on here were delighted to get him. You only have to look at his signing thread to see it. So when most would have signed him and thought it was a great move it's hard to then blame the club for signing him.

I think we expected to see the stephen Ireland who had been city's player of the year under Hughes and looked a superb player - we never really got anything like that from him in his time here.

The mistake was signing him when managerless .

[PeterWithesShin]

Missing the point yet again. It's a mistake because hindsight shows he was shit for us. Virtually no one thought it was a mistake at the time. Read the signing thread and then tell me how many were agaisnt it and thought it was a mistake.

[eastie]

Missing the point yet again. It's a mistake because hindsight shows he was shit for us. Virtually no one thought it was a mistake at the time. Read the signing thread and then tell me how many were agaisnt it and thought it was a mistake.

I thought he was a good signing at the time myself - but as the club hadn't a manager it was a mistake to buy any player a future manager may not rate .

Hindsight isn't needed to see that you don't buy big money players without a manager .

I rated him but it should have been the new manager who decided on the deal .

[Goldie.7]

Missing the point yet again. It's a mistake because hindsight shows he was shit for us. Virtually no one thought it was a mistake at the time. Read the signing thread and then tell me how many were against it and thought it was a mistake.

Where is that thread i was looking for it earlier.

[PeterWithesShin]

Still missing the point. It is only a mistake because hindsight shows us he was a failure here. If it was such an obvious mistake at the time why wasn't his signing thread filled with comments saying that?

[PeterWithesShin]

Missing the point yet again. It's a mistake because hindsight shows he was shit for us. Virtually no one thought it was a mistake at the time. Read the signing thread and then tell me how many were against it and thought it was a mistake.

Where is that thread i was looking for it earlier.

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=39825.0

[eastie]

Still missing the point. It is only a mistake because hindsight shows us he was a failure here. If it was such an obvious mistake at the time why wasn't his signing thread filled with comments saying that?

Because most of us rated him as a quality player - but the person who mattered was the manager and we hadn't got one at the time .

Do you think we should have bought a player at such cost without a manager ?
I'm certainly not saying he was a shit player , he was the type of player we needed but surely the manager should decide if he wants him or not ?

[Toronto Villa]

Missing the point yet again. It's a mistake because hindsight shows he was shit for us. Virtually no one thought it was a mistake at the time. Read the signing thread and then tell me how many were against it and thought it was a mistake.

Where is that thread i was looking for it earlier.

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=39825.0

Yep, we were all completely conned by the fucking waster.

[eamonn]

I thought it was a wonderful deal.