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Author Topic: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours  (Read 1897835 times)

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6135 on: January 24, 2013, 03:31:38 PM »
Based on the fact that this thread is for transfers, shouldn't it be locked indefinately?
Get in there!

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6136 on: January 24, 2013, 03:34:04 PM »
At last -


 Villa bid 2 million for Swansea ball boy after seeing him keep possession of the ball for more than 10 seconds !

Keep up Eastie.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6137 on: January 24, 2013, 03:34:22 PM »
Seems we've got another "yes-man" as manager. If Lambert's happy to go with the current players on the strength his job is safe, he should look at what happened to the last guy in the hot-seat and he managed to keep us up!  He should ask for money and if not forthcoming, walk away with a bit of his reputation intact, because if he takes us down he won't be getting offered the Forest job next or anything like it. Sadly i don't think he's got the bollocks to stand up to our owner.

What you mean like MON?  Apparently he asked Lerner for more money, didn't get it, walked away then took the club to the cleaners via a tribunal under the guise that he was forced to leave because his job had become untenable.  Bloody brilliant this European employment law nonsense.  No Greg N'Ash he should not walk, he should get his head down and get on with the job he is paid to do which is coach the players and manage the day to day playing side.  If he does that and it proves that over a 38 game season we are not good enough to remain in the division then so be it.  Running away when the going gets tough, rather than proving your managerial ability to ride a crisis and come through it stronger is not the thing to do, only weak lily livered folk like MON do that and PL is not cut from the same cloth i'm sure of that.

He's got you skewered there Greg, and no mistake. MoN as a no-man par excellence, being endorsed by his most vociferous and determined detractor.

Yes, H&V's voice of reason on the horns of a dilemma.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6138 on: January 24, 2013, 03:40:13 PM »
I'd be surprised if no-one at all came in as well.

I think its too late now anyway , the damage has been done .
I think the southampton defeat will cost us dear come may.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2013, 03:42:15 PM by eastie »

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6139 on: January 24, 2013, 03:45:17 PM »
Even Newcastle are buying, they'll come to Villa tuesday with a bit more confidence im sure of it

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6140 on: January 24, 2013, 03:48:31 PM »
Even Newcastle are buying, they'll come to Villa tuesday with a bit more confidence im sure of it

Everyone else at the bottom is. It's only us that seem to actually be encouraging relegation.

Offline JJ-AV

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6141 on: January 24, 2013, 03:55:45 PM »
It seems that Randy and Lambert had an agreement that he'd have some money to spend in the summer but that would basically be it for the season. Lambert agreed, thinking that it would be enough to keep the team up and he could start to build something. But now we are in the shit.

Lambert wasn't thinking about just keeping us up pre-season. Not in public at least.

We were all aiming for solid midtable, minimum. Remember this is the squad McLeish had but with an additional £25m of investment. McLeish had us 16th, 9 points off midtable.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6142 on: January 24, 2013, 03:56:44 PM »
Seems we've got another "yes-man" as manager. If Lambert's happy to go with the current players on the strength his job is safe, he should look at what happened to the last guy in the hot-seat and he managed to keep us up!  He should ask for money and if not forthcoming, walk away with a bit of his reputation intact, because if he takes us down he won't be getting offered the Forest job next or anything like it. Sadly i don't think he's got the bollocks to stand up to our owner.

What you mean like MON?  Apparently he asked Lerner for more money, didn't get it, walked away then took the club to the cleaners via a tribunal under the guise that he was forced to leave because his job had become untenable.  Bloody brilliant this European employment law nonsense.  No Greg N'Ash he should not walk, he should get his head down and get on with the job he is paid to do which is coach the players and manage the day to day playing side.  If he does that and it proves that over a 38 game season we are not good enough to remain in the division then so be it.  Running away when the going gets tough, rather than proving your managerial ability to ride a crisis and come through it stronger is not the thing to do, only weak lily livered folk like MON do that and PL is not cut from the same cloth i'm sure of that.

He's got you skewered there Greg, and no mistake. MoN as a no-man par excellence, being endorsed by his most vociferous and determined detractor.

Yes, H&V's voice of reason on the horns of a dilemma.

Not even vaguely simlar situations. MON left just before the season, had a squad containing quality players,  had spent a bloody fortune already, and WAS given the money for Ireland. With Lambert we've got a guy who presumably bought into the whole kids plan and now its going pear-shaped he's refusing to change tact. If you haven't got the tools to do the job then you're just wasting your time just doing a crap job albeit a very well paid crap job. A manager with any pride would either try and get lerner to change his mind or walk.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6143 on: January 24, 2013, 03:57:52 PM »
I like Randy and if he doesn't want to invest anymore then I don't blame him. He's undoubtedly made a tonne of errors, but it could be worse.

It does seem odd he's seemingly given up at the minute though - although I suppose there's been too many transfer windows where he's been talked into giving a manager big money, only to have to replace him in the Summer and then do it all again. There has to be a breaking point.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6144 on: January 24, 2013, 03:59:18 PM »
Ive had enough of this! Lets sack Lambert put The Doc back in charge until the end of the season. Hes only 84 for Gods sake.

Sky will give us a fortune for access to The Docs quotes. Arry will panic at the competition and piss off to Monaco.

Doug will take over as Chairman (on loan) and sack Doc just after we are safe.

And then we can go again next season.

and before you start typing Doc took us down last time...you learn by your mistakes!

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6145 on: January 24, 2013, 04:00:03 PM »
I like Randy and if he doesn't want to invest anymore then I don't blame him. He's undoubtedly made a tonne of errors, but it could be worse.

It does seem odd he's seemingly given up at the minute though - although I suppose there's been too many transfer windows where he's been talked into giving a manager big money, only to have to replace him in the Summer and then do it all again. There has to be a breaking point.

The breaking point is the collapse of Aston Villa, as the owner of our club he can't just give up because things haven't gone well in the past. The reason those managers have been sacked or left is because of his poor decision making. He is responsible for nearly all of the problems facing this club.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6146 on: January 24, 2013, 04:00:50 PM »
I'd be surprised if no-one at all came in as well.

I think its too late now anyway , the damage has been done .
I think the southampton defeat will cost us dear come may.

You just can't have this state of mind when there are still 15 games and 45 points up for grabs, chances are winning just 15-17 of those points will probably be enough to stay up.  We must remain of a positive attitude that we can stave off relegation, I truly believe that if we get Dunne and Vlaar together in the centre for our last 12-14 games we should just about do it.  Please stay with the team it can be done.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6147 on: January 24, 2013, 04:01:58 PM »
France football saying Sissoko will be going to Newcastle for €2.5-3m and Sissoko's waiving a signing-on fee from Newcastle in order to do it. This is a club one point and one place above us, who we play next in a crucial game in under a week, signing the exact player we need for astonishingly minimal money.

I think I actually hate the people in charge at the club right now. They can fuck off down a very deep hole.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6148 on: January 24, 2013, 04:08:34 PM »
Seems we've got another "yes-man" as manager. If Lambert's happy to go with the current players on the strength his job is safe, he should look at what happened to the last guy in the hot-seat and he managed to keep us up!  He should ask for money and if not forthcoming, walk away with a bit of his reputation intact, because if he takes us down he won't be getting offered the Forest job next or anything like it. Sadly i don't think he's got the bollocks to stand up to our owner.

What you mean like MON?  Apparently he asked Lerner for more money, didn't get it, walked away then took the club to the cleaners via a tribunal under the guise that he was forced to leave because his job had become untenable.  Bloody brilliant this European employment law nonsense.  No Greg N'Ash he should not walk, he should get his head down and get on with the job he is paid to do which is coach the players and manage the day to day playing side.  If he does that and it proves that over a 38 game season we are not good enough to remain in the division then so be it.  Running away when the going gets tough, rather than proving your managerial ability to ride a crisis and come through it stronger is not the thing to do, only weak lily livered folk like MON do that and PL is not cut from the same cloth i'm sure of that.

He's got you skewered there Greg, and no mistake. MoN as a no-man par excellence, being endorsed by his most vociferous and determined detractor.

Yes, H&V's voice of reason on the horns of a dilemma.

Not even vaguely simlar situations. MON left just before the season, had a squad containing quality players,  had spent a bloody fortune already, and WAS given the money for Ireland. With Lambert we've got a guy who presumably bought into the whole kids plan and now its going pear-shaped he's refusing to change tact. If you haven't got the tools to do the job then you're just wasting your time just doing a crap job albeit a very well paid crap job. A manager with any pride would either try and get lerner to change his mind or walk.

Yes. But he said no. Stood up with his big balls.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #6149 on: January 24, 2013, 04:08:42 PM »
France football saying Sissoko will be going to Newcastle for €2.5-3m and Sissoko's waiving a signing-on fee from Newcastle in order to do it. This is a club one point and one place above us, who we play next in a crucial game in under a week, signing the exact player we need for astonishingly minimal money.

I think I actually hate the people in charge at the club right now. They can fuck off down a very deep hole.

There's not much you can do if a player doesn't want to join us. I see he's quoted as stating that the number of French players at Newcastle will help him settle. Any potential signing watching our games over recent months must hope he can find some where better to play than Villa.

 


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