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Author Topic: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours  (Read 1896387 times)

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5430 on: January 19, 2013, 11:29:12 AM »
If we don't sign anyone we will go down. It's so stark, and so obvious, and Lambert can't be happy with the situation meaning Lerner has to just realise what the situation is, not what he wishes it was.

For what it's worth, I think we'll go down even if we do sign someone (assuming we're not about to splash out on anyone significantly better than what we have). It's possible, but it seems unlikely that someone like, say, Dale Stephens is going to make such a big difference as to hugely improve our performance.

I just think we'll have to rely on Vlaar staying fit and being better than I think he is (I think he's quite good), N'Zogbia coming into form, and Lambert.....well, Lambert just doing MUCH better all round, really.

Doesn't seem too likely, but you never know.

Were 6 points behind 13th place with 16 games to go and you've already got us down? Absolutely crazy! Is this attention seeking internet behaviour because you don't hear this stuff in pubs. Yes people say their worried but not to the extent you read on here or other Villa portals.

I don't know the atmosphere in Villa Park was pretty resigned last weekend. We're not gone yet, and it can be saved but it requires investment, courage and tactical awareness.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5431 on: January 19, 2013, 11:34:21 AM »
Well it's up to the manager to give them confidence, and times running out.

I think he does to an extent. You'll often see us start a half well, knocking the ball around and looking OK only for a couple of misplaced passes to see them go back into their shells. A manager can coach and encourage, cajole and persuade but in the end confidence comes from within and it's just so fragile at the moment.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5432 on: January 19, 2013, 11:37:14 AM »
Well it's up to the manager to give them confidence, and times running out.

I think he does to an extent. You'll often see us start a half well, knocking the ball around and looking OK only for a couple of misplaced passes to see them go back into their shells. A manager can coach and encourage, cajole and persuade but in the end confidence comes from within and it's just so fragile at the moment.

Well that's true, we need the players to step up and show for want of a better word some balls. Hopefully Vlaar will help with that.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5433 on: January 19, 2013, 11:46:34 AM »
If we don't sign anyone we will go down. It's so stark, and so obvious, and Lambert can't be happy with the situation meaning Lerner has to just realise what the situation is, not what he wishes it was.

For what it's worth, I think we'll go down even if we do sign someone (assuming we're not about to splash out on anyone significantly better than what we have). It's possible, but it seems unlikely that someone like, say, Dale Stephens is going to make such a big difference as to hugely improve our performance.

I just think we'll have to rely on Vlaar staying fit and being better than I think he is (I think he's quite good), N'Zogbia coming into form, and Lambert.....well, Lambert just doing MUCH better all round, really.

Doesn't seem too likely, but you never know.

Were 6 points behind 13th place with 16 games to go and you've already got us down? Absolutely crazy! Is this attention seeking internet behaviour because you don't hear this stuff in pubs. Yes people say their worried but not to the extent you read on here or other Villa portals.

And all we ever hear from you is how you're so much more of a better fan than everyone else.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5434 on: January 19, 2013, 11:55:53 AM »
Randy has a lot if money in BoA! They've taken another hit. What's $11.2bn dollars eh? No wonder PL is saying no money in the pot!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21059208

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5435 on: January 19, 2013, 12:01:06 PM »
Randy has a lot if money in BoA! They've taken another hit. What's $11.2bn dollars eh? No wonder PL is saying no money in the pot!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21059208

BofA performance recently has been one of the items of good news. The shares have more than doubled in the last year, and BofA have recently negotiated settlements on most of the big claims against them.  One of the reasons I hoped Randy might loosen the purse strings a bit.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5436 on: January 19, 2013, 12:03:55 PM »
i posted a week or so ago that i'd heard no money unless from sales. looking increasingly likely but ireally hope its bullshit. show us the money RL!

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5437 on: January 19, 2013, 12:12:50 PM »
It's very depressing i must say. I can't work Lerner out. Either he's genuinely a completely out of his depth idiot when it comes to running a football club, or he just has no interest in us to the point of neglect.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5438 on: January 19, 2013, 12:17:19 PM »
If we don't sign anyone we will go down. It's so stark, and so obvious, and Lambert can't be happy with the situation meaning Lerner has to just realise what the situation is, not what he wishes it was.

For what it's worth, I think we'll go down even if we do sign someone (assuming we're not about to splash out on anyone significantly better than what we have). It's possible, but it seems unlikely that someone like, say, Dale Stephens is going to make such a big difference as to hugely improve our performance.

I just think we'll have to rely on Vlaar staying fit and being better than I think he is (I think he's quite good), N'Zogbia coming into form, and Lambert.....well, Lambert just doing MUCH better all round, really.

Doesn't seem too likely, but you never know.

Were 6 points behind 13th place with 16 games to go and you've already got us down? Absolutely crazy! Is this attention seeking internet behaviour because you don't hear this stuff in pubs. Yes people say their worried but not to the extent you read on here or other Villa portals.

Attention seeking internet behaviour? No, it's just a different point of view than yours. Why is my expressing it here any more attention seeking than you doing exactly the same?

Besides, it's hardly that dramatic a viewpoint, is it? We're in dreadful form, it seems unlikely at this stage that we'll be bolstering the team any, we're being beaten by the teams around us, and we've been playing some of the poorest football in the league.

Is it such an outlandish thing to suggest that I think we'll get relegated?

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5439 on: January 19, 2013, 12:31:46 PM »
I think it is somewhere between the two Greg.   I think he is an introvert so that whatever his feelings are they will never be revealed.   I think he was very badly knocked back by the O'Neill exit.   I get the feeling that he cannot get his head round the way we regard sport, especially football and what he expected it to be like.   English football is steak tartare and he was expecting a Wendy's burger.   Neither does he get the tribal bit, the ferocious pride and love of the supporters for a shitty corner of the industrial west midlands.

When he bought the club I think he expected the fans to be like the cheering crowds of english people on The Mall waving to the Queen he had seen on american television.

I also suspect that he does not like one on one confrontation and likes the eyeball to eyeball stuff to be done by his employees.   That is where the lack of football genes in Paul Faulkner has let him down.

My son Damon and I spent most of the day on Thursday talking about this issue and we concluded that Randy Lerner is like a jig saw puzzle with a lot of the pieces missing, my metaphor but pretty much what we agreed on.

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5440 on: January 19, 2013, 12:36:27 PM »
If we don't sign anyone we will go down. It's so stark, and so obvious, and Lambert can't be happy with the situation meaning Lerner has to just realise what the situation is, not what he wishes it was.

For what it's worth, I think we'll go down even if we do sign someone (assuming we're not about to splash out on anyone significantly better than what we have). It's possible, but it seems unlikely that someone like, say, Dale Stephens is going to make such a big difference as to hugely improve our performance.

I just think we'll have to rely on Vlaar staying fit and being better than I think he is (I think he's quite good), N'Zogbia coming into form, and Lambert.....well, Lambert just doing MUCH better all round, really.

Doesn't seem too likely, but you never know.

Were 6 points behind 13th place with 16 games to go and you've already got us down? Absolutely crazy! Is this attention seeking internet behaviour because you don't hear this stuff in pubs. Yes people say their worried but not to the extent you read on here or other Villa portals.

Attention seeking internet behaviour? No, it's just a different point of view than yours. Why is my expressing it here any more attention seeking than you doing exactly the same?

Besides, it's hardly that dramatic a viewpoint, is it? We're in dreadful form, it seems unlikely at this stage that we'll be bolstering the team any, we're being beaten by the teams around us, and we've been playing some of the poorest football in the league.

Is it such an outlandish thing to suggest that I think we'll get relegated?

Your saying that were more or less down regardless of any business we do, we still have 48 points left to play for and we're only in the bottom 3 on goal difference. Yes the current run is shocking but just over a month ago we had beaten Norwich and Liverpool away in the space of a few days to take our unbeaten run to 6 games, this shows that form can change in an instant so there is no way on this earth we should be resigned to championship football at this time!

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5441 on: January 19, 2013, 12:37:20 PM »
If we don't sign anyone we will go down. It's so stark, and so obvious, and Lambert can't be happy with the situation meaning Lerner has to just realise what the situation is, not what he wishes it was.

For what it's worth, I think we'll go down even if we do sign someone (assuming we're not about to splash out on anyone significantly better than what we have). It's possible, but it seems unlikely that someone like, say, Dale Stephens is going to make such a big difference as to hugely improve our performance.

I just think we'll have to rely on Vlaar staying fit and being better than I think he is (I think he's quite good), N'Zogbia coming into form, and Lambert.....well, Lambert just doing MUCH better all round, really.

Doesn't seem too likely, but you never know.

Were 6 points behind 13th place with 16 games to go and you've already got us down? Absolutely crazy! Is this attention seeking internet behaviour because you don't hear this stuff in pubs. Yes people say their worried but not to the extent you read on here or other Villa portals.

And all we ever hear from you is how you're so much more of a better fan than everyone else.

What the fuck are you talking about? Show some examples of this you fucking knob!

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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5442 on: January 19, 2013, 12:38:50 PM »
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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5443 on: January 19, 2013, 12:40:29 PM »
If we don't sign anyone we will go down. It's so stark, and so obvious, and Lambert can't be happy with the situation meaning Lerner has to just realise what the situation is, not what he wishes it was.

For what it's worth, I think we'll go down even if we do sign someone (assuming we're not about to splash out on anyone significantly better than what we have). It's possible, but it seems unlikely that someone like, say, Dale Stephens is going to make such a big difference as to hugely improve our performance.

I just think we'll have to rely on Vlaar staying fit and being better than I think he is (I think he's quite good), N'Zogbia coming into form, and Lambert.....well, Lambert just doing MUCH better all round, really.

Doesn't seem too likely, but you never know.

Were 6 points behind 13th place with 16 games to go and you've already got us down? Absolutely crazy! Is this attention seeking internet behaviour because you don't hear this stuff in pubs. Yes people say their worried but not to the extent you read on here or other Villa portals.

Attention seeking internet behaviour? No, it's just a different point of view than yours. Why is my expressing it here any more attention seeking than you doing exactly the same?

Besides, it's hardly that dramatic a viewpoint, is it? We're in dreadful form, it seems unlikely at this stage that we'll be bolstering the team any, we're being beaten by the teams around us, and we've been playing some of the poorest football in the league.

Is it such an outlandish thing to suggest that I think we'll get relegated?

Your saying that were more or less down regardless of any business we do, we still have 48 points left to play for and we're only in the bottom 3 on goal difference. Yes the current run is shocking but just over a month ago we had beaten Norwich and Liverpool away in the space of a few days to take our unbeaten run to 6 games, this shows that form can change in an instant so there is no way on this earth we should be resigned to championship football at this time!

I'm saying that I think we'll be relegated. And you're saying that you think we won't. That's called 'having a different opinion', and isn't 'attention seeking behaviour'.


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Re: January Transfer Thread: Speculation, Lies, Absolute Cr*p and Bosman Rumours
« Reply #5444 on: January 19, 2013, 12:41:17 PM »
Personal abuse is not tolerated on this site.

I find his comment personal and abusive and completely wrong!

 


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