Aston Villa v Everton Post-Match Thread

[hawkeye]

I think I shall open a dry cleaner's, specialising in brown trousers. It will surely make my fortune.

you might want to open a spec savers as well, there are people on here that think that Nzog is playing ok.

[Matt Collins]

I agree CNZ wasn't as awful as some suggested. And it is a bit irritating that fans always criticise a player for 'not trying' whenever they're not doing it. Sometimes a lack of confidence mean players don't show for the ball, but I genuinely think 90% of players are trying hard most of the time. Chris Herd tries hard. He's just not very good. That's why it looked like he wasn't playing today.

to be honest, it was so bad today that we just need to move on. Practically everyone got it wrong today, including Lambert. But I imagine he'll have learnt a fair bit about the likes of Bannan, Clark, Fonz and seen some worrying things about Bent.

I would be surprised if Guzan, Delph and Ireland don't start against Newcastle.

[Matt Collins]

The other thing to say of course, is that Everton were absolutely fantastic. A wonderful performance. I like Everton, and Moyes, and I'd love it if they had a good season. They really could have had about 7 or 8, comfortably.

Just watching the highlights, and Clark did have a bit of a stinker I think. I've changed my view.

[JJ-AV]

Outclassed.

[Legion]

Well, that was absolutely fucking awful. Everton (Bloody Everton!) played the way I'd have loved us to play.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Well, that was absolutely fucking awful. Everton (Bloody Everton!) played the way I'd have loved us to play.

The disorganised way we played, giving them too much space and time on the ball helped them enormously. But credit to them for doing the job so well.
I'd love us to play like that too...perhaps we will in time...

[Ian.]

Everton looked very good, starting strong too could mean a very good season for them. I do like that fella up front for them, cracking player.

[Matt Collins]

The problem is, it took Moyes about 7 years to get Everton playing football of that style, as he had no money. Although Swansea seem to have managed it.

If we think Lambert is the right man, he will get it right. We might be in the Championship by the time he does, but he will get it right!

[PeterWithesShin]

While Everton were very good today, probably the best i've seen them play at VP since the mid 80's, it's taken one manager 10 years to get them playing that well. Lambert has had competitive 2 games. Look at Swansea as well, they play some fantastic stuff but it's because of a plan they've had in place for years coming to fruition.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

The other thing to say of course, is that Everton were absolutely fantastic. A wonderful performance. I like Everton, and Moyes, and I'd love it if they had a good season. They really could have had about 7 or 8, comfortably.

Just watching the highlights, and Clark did have a bit of a stinker I think. I've changed my view.

Agreed Matt. Didn't think Clark had missed so much until I've just seen it in replay. He struggled to handle Jelavic; Baker did a much better job. I'd keep him at CB and move Clark to DM (or buy a solid DM very soon!).

[Ian.]

I'm confident Lambert will get it right, I am not going to panic. Hopefully with every match even if we lose it's a step in the right direction with who the boss wants here and how he will go about making it work. I'm sure this will be a testing time for us but it will pay off in the long run.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm confident Lambert will get it right, I am not going to panic. Hopefully with every match even if we lose it's a step in the right direction with who the boss wants here and how he will go about making it work. I'm sure this will be a testing time for us but it will pay off in the long run.

I believe in the manager.

I don't believe in the squad, though.

[Matt Collins]

The other thing to say of course, is that Everton were absolutely fantastic. A wonderful performance. I like Everton, and Moyes, and I'd love it if they had a good season. They really could have had about 7 or 8, comfortably.

Just watching the highlights, and Clark did have a bit of a stinker I think. I've changed my view.

Agreed Matt. Didn't think Clark had missed so much until I've just seen it in replay. He struggled to handle Jelavic; Baker did a much better job. I'd keep him at CB and move Clark to DM (or buy a solid DM very soon!).

Yes, he was partially at fault for missing the cross when Fellaini scored, for losing Jelavic, and for sleeping when he got sent off. I just don't know if he's got a defender's mindset? Baker clearly does.

[Ian.]

I'm confident Lambert will get it right, I am not going to panic. Hopefully with every match even if we lose it's a step in the right direction with who the boss wants here and how he will go about making it work. I'm sure this will be a testing time for us but it will pay off in the long run.

I believe in the manager.

I don't believe in the squad, though.

No I don't either. I'm sure PL is learning this the hard way. Hopefully he has players in mind already and we can bring some in this week.

[Risso]

I'm confident Lambert will get it right, I am not going to panic. Hopefully with every match even if we lose it's a step in the right direction with who the boss wants here and how he will go about making it work. I'm sure this will be a testing time for us but it will pay off in the long run.

It's impossible to have a plan when the manager isn't being backed.  It is simply not possible to shape the squad we have at the moment into an effective Premier League force, there are simply too many players who are not nearly good enough.