collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by OCD
[Today at 07:02:35 AM]


Evann Guessand (Signed) by Dante Lavelli
[Today at 06:51:02 AM]


Pre season 2025 by sid1964
[Today at 05:49:07 AM]


The nearlywases - Bobby Campbell by dcdavecollett
[Today at 01:44:22 AM]


Bears/Pears/Domestic Cricket Thread by tomd2103
[Today at 12:43:53 AM]


23 April 1975 by dcdavecollett
[Today at 12:42:32 AM]


Other Games 2025-26 by Tuscans
[Today at 12:09:14 AM]


Jacob Ramsey by Brend'Watkins
[Today at 12:08:23 AM]

Recent Posts

Follow us on...

Author Topic: McLeish:No Regrets  (Read 31092 times)

Online Toronto Villa

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 58458
  • Age: 52
  • Location: Toronto, Canada
  • GM : 23.07.2026
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #90 on: August 23, 2012, 05:32:35 PM »
Why do some people get so wound up when other posters don't want Alex McLeish castrated?  He just wasn't good enough, that's all.  He never slagged the club, or the fans.  He was just shit. 

no, not directly, you're right. But in the manner of what he produced and the excuses he came up with every week he royally took the piss for the money he was on. It was all very subtle wrapped up nicely in the guise of "nice bloke"

Offline Monty

  • Member
  • Posts: 29199
  • Location: pastaland
  • GM : 25.05.2024
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #91 on: August 23, 2012, 05:36:13 PM »
Why do some people get so wound up when other posters don't want Alex McLeish castrated?  He just wasn't good enough, that's all.  He never slagged the club, or the fans.  He was just shit. 

Well, I thought that at first. But I lost a lot of respect for him as he went on and on blaming all others, including the players, for the failings. In public. That was appalling man-management, and terrible for results, so the only explanation is that he was saying it all to cover his own arse. The idea that a Villa manager would be so cowardly as to even undermine results to avoid taking responsibility for his failings was not endearing.

Offline jembob

  • Member
  • Posts: 1471
  • Location: Solihull
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #92 on: August 23, 2012, 05:42:16 PM »
Why do some people get so wound up when other posters don't want Alex McLeish castrated?  He just wasn't good enough, that's all.  He never slagged the club, or the fans.  He was just shit. 

Well, I thought that at first. But I lost a lot of respect for him as he went on and on blaming all others, including the players, for the failings. In public. That was appalling man-management, and terrible for results, so the only explanation is that he was saying it all to cover his own arse. The idea that a Villa manager would be so cowardly as to even undermine results to avoid taking responsibility for his failings was not endearing.

I agree. He may not have had an regrets about last season but I do - it was £500 of my hard earned cash down the pan with absolutely nothing to show for it. Not one half decent performance and a number of absolutely shameful ones. For him continue to blame everybody but himself is insulting and craven.

Offline Monty

  • Member
  • Posts: 29199
  • Location: pastaland
  • GM : 25.05.2024
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #93 on: August 23, 2012, 05:44:12 PM »
Why do some people get so wound up when other posters don't want Alex McLeish castrated?  He just wasn't good enough, that's all.  He never slagged the club, or the fans.  He was just shit. 

Well, I thought that at first. But I lost a lot of respect for him as he went on and on blaming all others, including the players, for the failings. In public. That was appalling man-management, and terrible for results, so the only explanation is that he was saying it all to cover his own arse. The idea that a Villa manager would be so cowardly as to even undermine results to avoid taking responsibility for his failings was not endearing.

I agree. He may not have had an regrets about last season but I do - it was £500 of my hard earned cash down the pan with absolutely nothing to show for it. Not one half decent performance and a number of absolutely shameful ones. For him continue to blame everybody but himself is insulting and craven.

Craven. Nicely put.

Offline Rigadon

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 8958
  • GM : 13.06.26
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #94 on: August 23, 2012, 05:53:54 PM »
I get why folks are pissed off at the shite we watched last season and I was 'outraged of Bromsgrove' in many a post match thread.  I just don't think he's bright enough to put on an act of being a nice guy to curry favour and I think the craven-ness is just his fairly low intellect on display.  He was a disaster of an appointment though and yes, it would be refreshing to hear that now and again from people in the game but when it's your livelihood you're hardly likely to come a=out with that kind of thing.  It appears that in this interview he has gone for the only option he has for an excuse (injuries) and I can't say he's totally wrong.  Maybe 5% of the dross served up was a result of players missing or carrying knocks but  the rest was that he just wasn't up to it.   No mud-slinging though and he speaks highly f the club as he always did.

Offline jembob

  • Member
  • Posts: 1471
  • Location: Solihull
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #95 on: August 23, 2012, 06:13:11 PM »
Why do some people get so wound up when other posters don't want Alex McLeish castrated?  He just wasn't good enough, that's all.  He never slagged the club, or the fans.  He was just shit. 

Well, I thought that at first. But I lost a lot of respect for him as he went on and on blaming all others, including the players, for the failings. In public. That was appalling man-management, and terrible for results, so the only explanation is that he was saying it all to cover his own arse. The idea that a Villa manager would be so cowardly as to even undermine results to avoid taking responsibility for his failings was not endearing.

I agree. He may not have had an regrets about last season but I do - it was £500 of my hard earned cash down the pan with absolutely nothing to show for it. Not one half decent performance and a number of absolutely shameful ones. For him continue to blame everybody but himself is insulting and craven.

Craven. Nicely put.

Credit to Roget's Thesaurus!

Offline Risso

  • Member
  • Posts: 89939
  • Location: Leics
  • GM : 04.03.2025
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #96 on: August 23, 2012, 06:16:47 PM »
I get why folks are pissed off at the shite we watched last season and I was 'outraged of Bromsgrove' in many a post match thread.  I just don't think he's bright enough to put on an act of being a nice guy to curry favour and I think the craven-ness is just his fairly low intellect on display.  He was a disaster of an appointment though and yes, it would be refreshing to hear that now and again from people in the game but when it's your livelihood you're hardly likely to come a=out with that kind of thing.  It appears that in this interview he has gone for the only option he has for an excuse (injuries) and I can't say he's totally wrong.  Maybe 5% of the dross served up was a result of players missing or carrying knocks but  the rest was that he just wasn't up to it.   No mud-slinging though and he speaks highly f the club as he always did.

Did you miss the part where he mentioned the fans who were never going to give him a chance?

Offline timeoutbigbar

  • Member
  • Posts: 2324
  • Age: 38
  • Location: Cheltenham
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #97 on: August 23, 2012, 07:05:32 PM »
Getting himself in the public eye I see, a pundit on ITV4's coverage of the Hearts v Liverpool game.

Online Chris Smith

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 36425
  • Location: At home
  • GM : 20.07.2026
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #98 on: August 23, 2012, 07:06:41 PM »
Fucking hell Chris. You'll need to dig up Johnny Cochran for this one if you are planning on defending McLeish. Most rational people gave him every chance to succeed....

Problem is there are lot of irrational people posting on the internet

I'm not defending his record just objecting to the revisionism and character assassination that has been prevalent for the past few months.

Offline avfc_1874

  • Member
  • Posts: 1617
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #99 on: August 23, 2012, 07:26:28 PM »
With the money he earnt as manager & the compensation pay-off he received. I'm not surprised he doesn't have any regrets.

Offline Rigadon

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 8958
  • GM : 13.06.26
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #100 on: August 23, 2012, 07:40:09 PM »
I get why folks are pissed off at the shite we watched last season and I was 'outraged of Bromsgrove' in many a post match thread.  I just don't think he's bright enough to put on an act of being a nice guy to curry favour and I think the craven-ness is just his fairly low intellect on display.  He was a disaster of an appointment though and yes, it would be refreshing to hear that now and again from people in the game but when it's your livelihood you're hardly likely to come a=out with that kind of thing.  It appears that in this interview he has gone for the only option he has for an excuse (injuries) and I can't say he's totally wrong.  Maybe 5% of the dross served up was a result of players missing or carrying knocks but  the rest was that he just wasn't up to it.   No mud-slinging though and he speaks highly f the club as he always did.

Did you miss the part where he mentioned the fans who were never going to give him a chance?

Are you saying there was joyous rapture when his appointment was announced?  I remember lots of fans giving the guy a good go and slowly but surely having their collective will to care sapped as the season drew on.   However, I also remember a significant proportion of our numbers moaning like fuck and a even having a half-arsed protest.  I also recall sitting next to a group of blokes in the lower north who turned up for the first home game signing 'McLeish out' 'bluenose ******' style songs for the first 10 minutes of the game (only stopping to go and piss the 10 pints they'd drunk before the game).  It was a mixed bag in truth.

He isn't lying when he said some fans were against him from the first moment he was appointed and he isn't lying when he said he had problems with injuries.  What he fails to mention was EVERYTHING else he did wrong, either because he has amnesia, or he doesn't realise or he's toning it down so some mug chairman, probably in Scotland, gives him a job.   

Now, can I please stop sticking up for the manager who served up the most depressing season I can remember?  Thank you!

Offline not3bad

  • Member
  • Posts: 12218
  • Location: Back in Brum
  • GM : 15.06.2022
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #101 on: August 23, 2012, 07:42:11 PM »
I agree. He may not have had an regrets about last season but I do - it was £500 of my hard earned cash down the pan with absolutely nothing to show for it. Not one half decent performance and a number of absolutely shameful ones.

Actually that's not quite true.  Blackburn, Norwich, Arsenal (though we lost) and QPR were all decent home performances.

Offline Percy McCarthy

  • Member
  • Posts: 35602
  • Location: I'm hiding in my hole
    • King City Online
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #102 on: August 23, 2012, 07:44:37 PM »
We wouldn't be playing Coventry instead of Everton this weekend if we'd been relegated. Unless the authorities decided to drop us two divisions because we were so fucking boring.

Offline MYSTERYMAN

  • Member
  • Posts: 128
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #103 on: August 23, 2012, 07:44:54 PM »
Spoke to him for over an hour this morning . I 100 percent don't think he was right for Villa but as a person think he is decent bloke and will be a decent manager for another club . Glad he went YES but also think that he inherited probably the worst dressing room in living memory . Too many egos and far too many average players who have no affinity with our club !

Offline placeforparks

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2334
  • GM : PCM
Re: McLeish:No Regrets
« Reply #104 on: August 23, 2012, 07:49:40 PM »
don't blame mcleish for taking the job, blame the idiots who offered it to him.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal