Norwich City v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[The Villan On The Wirral]

'But for three minutes last season I'd be the greatest manager in Birmingham City's history'. Yes Alex, that's because they've always been fucking shit.

This made me smile

[AV82EC]

Well just got back to Manchester after a 7 hour round trip and I remember why I stopped going to away games about 3 months ago.  Fucking useless, don't forget to clear your desk Alex.  As for the players, disgraceful.

[PaulWinch again]

'But for three minutes last season I'd be the greatest manager in Birmingham City's history'. Yes Alex, that's because they've always been fucking shit.

This made me smile

Me too.

[Legion]

Lowlights

[Toronto Villa]

Lowlights

I love it when Hansen says that McLeish just wants the season to end and start again. Yes, so do we Alan just with Alex miles and miles away from B6 with any other team but us.

[Des Little]

After that shit today, I honestly couldn't care less if we shipped out all 10 outfield players.  What a load of fucking shit.  Only Given came out of the game with any credit.  A disgrace.

[1780liam]

Just got home from the game...for me the worst performance of the season without question!!

Highlight of the day: "shoes off if you hate mcleish"
Then seeing 2000 shoes hoisted in the air!

[curiousorange]

After that shit today, I honestly couldn't care less if we shipped out all 10 outfield players.  What a load of fucking shit.  Only Given came out of the game with any credit.  A disgrace.

Aside from Hutton, every Villa player used this season has shown that they are capable of producing great football, either individually or as part of a team. However, they stopped wanting to play together even before McLeish arrived because of a lack of respect for the manager. Get in a boss that gives them a philosophy and a pride in each other and they could show that kind of form again. Look at Albrighton and N'Zogbia. They should be indispensable. Instead, they're terrible.

[danlanza]

After that shit today, I honestly couldn't care less if we shipped out all 10 outfield players.  What a load of fucking shit.  Only Given came out of the game with any credit.  A disgrace.

Aside from Hutton, every Villa player used this season has shown that they are capable of producing great football, either individually or as part of a team. However, they stopped wanting to play together even before McLeish arrived because of a lack of respect for the manager. Get in a boss that gives them a philosophy and a pride in each other and they could show that kind of form again. Look at Albrighton and N'Zogbia. They should be indispensable. Instead, they're terrible.

Indispensibly fuckin terrible!!!!

[andrew08]

Mmmm so just got back from Norwich. Good following, lots of 'faces' from the past who it was nice to see again. Mind you had the game mattered those boys would have been a little bit less in the party mood than they were.

I haven't been aggressively anti McLeish, in fact I've felt a little bit sorry for him in so much as I feel he's been hung out to dry a little bit by Lerners austerity measures......but he has to go now. He's lost the away crowd..... No one wants him and it will be impossible for the club to function with him in charge. Bluntly if that performance is the best he can  do with a safe and relaxed squad then he must go. They showed no commitment, no passion, no game plan, no bloody respect for several thousand who made the effort to go.

I will renew, whatever happens in the summer: the Villa is ours. Don't push it though Randy.

[villaparkb6]

Was he daring the club to sack him I wonder?

Exactly!

After Bolton it was "I'm not thinking about the end of the season, I just want to make sure we've stayed up."

Now that he HAS thought about it, he knows that if the club want to sack him, they've got to pay off his contract at £5m.  All of his interviews of the last few days have basically been saying "if you want me out, you have to sack me!" whereas post-Bolton, I imagine that Lerner was hoping that McLeish would agree his position was untenable, and settle for a bit less.

thats exactly how i read it........wanker

[dl9]

Just got home from the game...for me the worst performance of the season without question!!

Highlight of the day: "shoes off if you hate mcleish"
Then seeing 2000 shoes hoisted in the air!

Agreed.

[Clampy]

Not long got back. I can't remember the last time i saw a Villa side as dire as that, we were absolutley shocking. We looked so poor it was embarrasing to watch at times. If he gets given another season i'll be amazed.

Superb day in Great Yarmouth on saturday though, there were Villa wherever you went.

[Pete3206]

Norwich were good, we were shit. Thank God it's over.

"Shoes off, if you hate McLeish!"

[mr-villa]

Was he daring the club to sack him I wonder?

Exactly!

After Bolton it was "I'm not thinking about the end of the season, I just want to make sure we've stayed up."

Now that he HAS thought about it, he knows that if the club want to sack him, they've got to pay off his contract at £5m.  All of his interviews of the last few days have basically been saying "if you want me out, you have to sack me!" whereas post-Bolton, I imagine that Lerner was hoping that McLeish would agree his position was untenable, and settle for a bit less.

thats exactly how i read it........wanker

Can somebody please clarify is it not possible for the club to just put him on gardening leave thus only having to pay him monthly until such time as he finds another job, and saving having to pay out any lump sum contract payment that would be due if the club decided to sack him.  If he chooses to stay out of work for the remainder of his contract time then so be it the club have to swallow that.  Mind you I would have thought interest earned by Mr Lerner on all of his money would easily cover that.  Equally why is it not possible to take him down the competency route, demonstrate that he has failed to fulfil the competences contained in his role profile and thus be able to safely terminate his employment on such grounds without recourse?