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Author Topic: Have we been in denial?  (Read 35980 times)

Online dave.woodhall

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #60 on: April 22, 2012, 02:23:28 PM »
Four pages and no Egyptian river pun. I'm disappointed.

Offline James

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2012, 02:47:14 PM »
Damn it Dave i was just getting to that!  ;D

This situation has been coming ever since the mystifying appoinment of McLeech was announced. The evidence was there in the first weeks of the season when with a fully fit squad we failed to beat so many of the sides that we normally would, and it's been getting steadily worse. We are now five points away from the trap door. Denial? I'm not even remotely surprised. As for the board? I doubt denial would be it for them either, they probably still can't even see anything wrong, and that's the most worrying factor!

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #62 on: April 22, 2012, 03:06:14 PM »
The way I see it is that it was always going to be a tough season and based on the standard of AM's signing (Given apart), it was unrealistic to expect a top seven push, however like someone said we are not the fifth worse squad in the league and based on the players he had we should at the very least be aiming for a comtreable midtable finish.

So I don't think we are in denial, don't think anybody thought we challenge for Europe, but like wise no one expect things to get this bad. 

Offline Dr.Feelgood

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #63 on: April 22, 2012, 03:17:11 PM »
Four pages and no Egyptian river pun. I'm disappointed.

To keep you happy, Dave : NILE is Greek for 'longest'.

And this is the LONGEST season I can remember !

McLeech OUT !  UTV. Villa 'til I Die...
(which may be of a coranary under this twat)
« Last Edit: April 22, 2012, 03:19:17 PM by Dr.Feelgood »

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2012, 03:30:20 PM »
Four pages and no Egyptian river pun. I'm disappointed.

To keep you happy, Dave : NILE is Greek for 'longest'.

And this is the LONGEST season I can remember !

McLeech OUT !  UTV. Villa 'til I Die...
(which may be of a coranary under this twat)

Thank you. Now you're wanted on the 1975 music thread.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2012, 03:44:30 PM »
He's been dealt a bun hand in many ways, which is why I was prepared to give him a chance. But our squad is still so much better than all of the other sides in and around us that we still shouldn't have been in this mess.

I don't see Wigan with a £24m centre forward, or Bolton with 3 central midfielders who cost £22m even after selling so many other midfielders.

It's obvious that the creativity has been sucked out of the side. And we've placed too much confidence in the likes of albrighton and bannan I replace that, whilst CNZ is more of a selfish player than a provider of numerous chances.

My concern is that even I we do seek to strengthen in those positions - and we definitely need to - mcleish's record is pretty suspect. He tried to make blues more creative with the likes of hleb, Benitez, etc. it just didn't work.

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #66 on: April 22, 2012, 03:49:54 PM »
Problem with CNZ is that his final ball or shot just isn't good enough.  Yesterday he actually was one of best players I thought, and made some exciting runs, but more often than not they came to nothing.  I expected much more from him this season, but he just has not made the step up.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2012, 03:57:01 PM »
Didn't understand why there was such a clamour for CNZ in the first place and especially with what we paid for him. For a guy who we keep getting told kept Wigan up on his own last season, they don't seem to be missing him to be fair. as i said at the time, if he's that good why didn't Manu save some money and buy him instead of Young?
« Last Edit: April 22, 2012, 03:59:43 PM by Greg N'Ash »

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #68 on: April 22, 2012, 03:59:56 PM »
He's not as good as Young. We couldn't afford someone who is and they wouldn't want to come anyway.

I thought he was the best we could get this time last year, but so far I've been wrong.

I don't think he's particularly suited to the way we're playing though

Offline Gregorys Boy

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #69 on: April 22, 2012, 04:02:07 PM »
Because Young is a better player, but that doesn't mean Charles couldn't have done a job for us, of course if Ashley had not left we never would have bought him anyway.

At the time I did see the signing as a good one because it looked as if he had mutured since his Newcastle days and did have a very good season at Wigan, but even if he had a cracking season with us, it still would not have been enough bareing in mind we lost Milner, Young and Downling in short order.

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #70 on: April 22, 2012, 05:39:56 PM »
We also gained Ireland this season.

Offline damon loves JT

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #71 on: April 22, 2012, 05:42:01 PM »
He's been dealt a bun hand in many ways

He has had plenty of dough to play with.

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #72 on: April 22, 2012, 05:46:10 PM »
He's been dealt a bun hand in many ways

He has had plenty of dough to play with.
He's certainly the sort of manager who gives fans a cob on.

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #73 on: April 22, 2012, 05:52:13 PM »
He's been dealt a bun hand in many ways

He has had plenty of dough to play with.
He's certainly the sort of manager who gives fans a cob on.
We're on a roll now.

Offline Witton Warrior

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Re: Have we been in denial?
« Reply #74 on: April 22, 2012, 06:05:04 PM »
He's been dealt a bun hand in many ways

He has had plenty of dough to play with.
He's certainly the sort of manager who gives fans a cob on.
We're on a roll now.

He's taken a lot of (French) stick though...

 


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