Quote from: Monty on April 20, 2012, 01:46:28 PMQuote from: Damo70 on April 20, 2012, 01:44:57 PMQuote from: Monty on April 20, 2012, 01:11:17 PMQuote from: Damo70 on April 20, 2012, 01:04:26 PMHe also didn't fall into the lazy trap of saying we don't like him because he is ex blues, he just pointed out that someone coming from them is going to need to get off to a better start than if they had come from somewhere else.That's the same thing isn't it? I mean, I don't factor in the Blues thing at all, I couldn't care less.The where he came from thing has been massively exaggerated in the media to the point where they have almost ignored the fact that it just might be the style of play and results that we are not happy about. Having said that, to go the other way and suggest his previous club is totally irrelevant to every single one of our supporters would for me be equally untrue.Oh I agree, doubtless there are those for whom it is an issue. But I would go as far as to say it's a minority issue, and even those who do use it against him don't care as much, as you say, as the media would suggest.For a small minority it's a reason and for a small minority of them it's the main reason.
Quote from: Damo70 on April 20, 2012, 01:44:57 PMQuote from: Monty on April 20, 2012, 01:11:17 PMQuote from: Damo70 on April 20, 2012, 01:04:26 PMHe also didn't fall into the lazy trap of saying we don't like him because he is ex blues, he just pointed out that someone coming from them is going to need to get off to a better start than if they had come from somewhere else.That's the same thing isn't it? I mean, I don't factor in the Blues thing at all, I couldn't care less.The where he came from thing has been massively exaggerated in the media to the point where they have almost ignored the fact that it just might be the style of play and results that we are not happy about. Having said that, to go the other way and suggest his previous club is totally irrelevant to every single one of our supporters would for me be equally untrue.Oh I agree, doubtless there are those for whom it is an issue. But I would go as far as to say it's a minority issue, and even those who do use it against him don't care as much, as you say, as the media would suggest.
Quote from: Monty on April 20, 2012, 01:11:17 PMQuote from: Damo70 on April 20, 2012, 01:04:26 PMHe also didn't fall into the lazy trap of saying we don't like him because he is ex blues, he just pointed out that someone coming from them is going to need to get off to a better start than if they had come from somewhere else.That's the same thing isn't it? I mean, I don't factor in the Blues thing at all, I couldn't care less.The where he came from thing has been massively exaggerated in the media to the point where they have almost ignored the fact that it just might be the style of play and results that we are not happy about. Having said that, to go the other way and suggest his previous club is totally irrelevant to every single one of our supporters would for me be equally untrue.
Quote from: Damo70 on April 20, 2012, 01:04:26 PMHe also didn't fall into the lazy trap of saying we don't like him because he is ex blues, he just pointed out that someone coming from them is going to need to get off to a better start than if they had come from somewhere else.That's the same thing isn't it? I mean, I don't factor in the Blues thing at all, I couldn't care less.
He also didn't fall into the lazy trap of saying we don't like him because he is ex blues, he just pointed out that someone coming from them is going to need to get off to a better start than if they had come from somewhere else.
I've never called him a blue nosed wanker, a wanker a c*** and many other things but the blue nose bit never comes into it for me, I just knew he played terrible defensive football there and he brought it here like many said he would
Oh, and excellent replies to Sir Graham's article by Martyn Bentsmith.
In 16 home games this season, Alex McLeish's team have won just four games. Villa's record low in a season is six (which happened from 19 matches in 2005-6 and also from 21 matches in 1994-5). In 1889-90, they won six and five in 1890-91 - but only 11 home matches were played in those seasons.
'Taylor also feels Alex McLeish's association with city rivals Birmingham has made life difficult for the Villa manager, who left St Andrew's to become Villa boss last June."There was always going to be a group of fans who would never accept Alex," said Taylor.'Oh Graham, I thought you'd've been above this old chestnut...yes there were a small band who wouldn't accept AMc because of his Blue link. However, there were more, far more, of us, who didn't want him at Villa because we didn't think he would be a good enough manager for the club. This was exactly the same reason why we successfully campaigned against Steve McLaren, a man with no Blues link, taking the job.
Indeed......something else I forgot to say about GT's piece was regarding his assertion that we were on AMc's back from the off because it wasn't 'win, win, win' from the off. Actually, that is not the case. After our (so far penultimate) home win against Norwich on 5 Nov we stood 8th, just 4 points behind the European places. And I, personally, remember thinking at that time, well, ok, this isn't too bad, perhaps he might be able to do something for us after all...it's since about then, however...well, 20 points from the following 22 games tells its own story...
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