Relegation Watch

[paulcomben]

Take away Weimann's goal in the dying seconds against Fulham and we'd be on 35 points now, we've been that poor.

36. I was there, unlike the many who left early and missed the only exciting home moment of this season. I did have the good grace to go absolutely bonkers, knowing it was crucial.

[VILLA MOLE]

Take away Weimann's goal in the dying seconds against Fulham and we'd be on 35 points now, we've been that poor.

not saying we are any good but you could agonse about lots of last minute things we have done either way . but yes we are where we are and poor

[john e]

if Mcleish stays should we just keep this thread running ?

[James]

Might as well!

[dave.woodhall]

I don't understand, given their respective last games, how Bolton can be odds on to go down while QPR are 5/2.

As has been said on this thread several times over, the bookies are placing a huge amount of weight on current league positions in their pricing.  There's been little appreciation of form or fixtures throughout the relegation battle.

What's been said on this thread several times over is a lot of hysteria and doomsaying. The bookies have been right and the drama queens wrong.

I don't think I ever really thought we would go down, but it certainly worried me, especially after the Bolton game. But for a last minute goal by West Brom and a crazy challenge by Rose, we'd be going into the last day very nervous, so I think calling people drama queens is a bit uncalled for.

When you had some on here saying we were not only going down but going straight through to the third division, drama queens is dead right.

[maidstonevillain]

I don't understand, given their respective last games, how Bolton can be odds on to go down while QPR are 5/2.

As has been said on this thread several times over, the bookies are placing a huge amount of weight on current league positions in their pricing.  There's been little appreciation of form or fixtures throughout the relegation battle.

What's been said on this thread several times over is a lot of hysteria and doomsaying. The bookies have been right and the drama queens wrong.

The only reason the bookies seem to have been right is because WestBrom equalised with a few minutes to go.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't understand, given their respective last games, how Bolton can be odds on to go down while QPR are 5/2.

As has been said on this thread several times over, the bookies are placing a huge amount of weight on current league positions in their pricing.  There's been little appreciation of form or fixtures throughout the relegation battle.

What's been said on this thread several times over is a lot of hysteria and doomsaying. The bookies have been right and the drama queens wrong.

The only reason the bookies seem to have been right is because WestBrom equalised with a few minutes to go.

This is getting absolutely ridiculous. By that logic Manchester City will only seem to have won the league because Everton equalised at Old Trafford.

[Dave]

I don't understand, given their respective last games, how Bolton can be odds on to go down while QPR are 5/2.

As has been said on this thread several times over, the bookies are placing a huge amount of weight on current league positions in their pricing.  There's been little appreciation of form or fixtures throughout the relegation battle.

What's been said on this thread several times over is a lot of hysteria and doomsaying. The bookies have been right and the drama queens wrong.

The only reason the bookies seem to have been right is because WestBrom equalised with a few minutes to go.

Or because they understand that a league is made up of a complicated combination of results rather than just handpicking a few shit results by a few shit teams.

[paulcomben]

if Mcleish stays should we just keep this thread running ?

Yes, but rename it 'Relegation. Watch'.

[pauliewalnuts]

Drama queenery or not, everyone at the club from top down should be utterly ashamed at the speed with which we have become a shambling wreck of a club.

Limping over the line with a week to go is truly unacceptable. I don't think there's much dramatic about that.

We will probably change manager now but, lets be honest, how many of us trust Randy and th Boy Wonder to get it right this time, given how mindbendingly wrong they got it last time?

[PaulWinch again]

Drama queenery or not, everyone at the club from top down should be utterly ashamed at the speed with which we have become a shambling wreck of a club.

Limping over the line with a week to go is truly unacceptable. I don't think there's much dramatic about that.

We will probably change manager now but, lets be honest, how many of us trust Randy and th Boy Wonder to get it right this time, given how mindbendingly wrong they got it last time?

Absolutely correct, it's been pathetic. Although they'd struggle to bollocks up the managerial appointment as much as they did this time.

[Dave]

Drama queenery or not, everyone at the club from top down should be utterly ashamed at the speed with which we have become a shambling wreck of a club.

Limping over the line with a week to go is truly unacceptable. I don't think there's much dramatic about that.

We will probably change manager now but, lets be honest, how many of us trust Randy and th Boy Wonder to get it right this time, given how mindbendingly wrong they got it last time?

I agree with all that, it's been awful and I fully expect it to get worse before it gets better.

But that doesn't mean that those who were telling us that 'it's between us and QPR for the last relegation spot' and that 'everyone else is pulling off surprise results and there's no chance of us picking up another point' were talking bollocks. And then getting pretty snotty with the people who told them at the time that they were talking bollocks.

[pauliewalnuts]

They were wrong, yes, but not by enough to label them drama queens.

[mike]

I don't understand, given their respective last games, how Bolton can be odds on to go down while QPR are 5/2.

As has been said on this thread several times over, the bookies are placing a huge amount of weight on current league positions in their pricing.  There's been little appreciation of form or fixtures throughout the relegation battle.

What's been said on this thread several times over is a lot of hysteria and doomsaying. The bookies have been right and the drama queens wrong.

I don't think I ever really thought we would go down, but it certainly worried me, especially after the Bolton game. But for a last minute goal by West Brom and a crazy challenge by Rose, we'd be going into the last day very nervous, so I think calling people drama queens is a bit uncalled for.

When you had some on here saying we were not only going down but going straight through to the third division, drama queens is dead right.

Thinking we would go straight into the third division would be drama queen behaviour but i didn't see anyone saying that. We were always likely to stay up but there was also a very real possibility we would have gone into the last day equal on points with QPR and Bolton, and then anything might have happened. You seem to think that Bolton might beat Stoke. Most people who were worried about going down weren't drama queens, it wasn't that far off happening.

[dave.woodhall]

Thinking we would go straight into the third division would be drama queen behaviour but i didn't see anyone saying that. We were always likely to stay up but there was also a very real possibility we would have gone into the last day equal on points with QPR and Bolton, and then anything might have happened. You seem to think that Bolton might beat Stoke. Most people who were worried about going down weren't drama queens, it wasn't that far off happening.

I saw it. I saw plenty of references to 'doing a Sheffield Wednesday.' Something like 63% in a poll said we'd go down. We haven't.