Manchester United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[jimmygreen]

I'm off to listen to Soul Mining. It helped in 87.

excellent choice.

I've got some Bill Laswell dub going, and the dancing girls in the Windies/Australia Test are seriously orgiastic. Apart from that, emptiness.

I'm on a train North of Sheffield. Likewise / emptiness.

[richard moore]

I'm off to listen to Soul Mining. It helped in 87.


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excellent choice. 

Yes, indeed, one of my favourite albums of that period, still got the cassette upstairs!

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

He's blaming the players too much and too often. Can only lead to discontent in the dressing room, never mind shirking all responsibility of where at least half of the blame lies - with himself.

I sincerely hope he can turn things around over the remaining games because I want my team to stay up and he's our manager.
That said, he has turned us into a laughing stock. An easy touch. A very poor football team.

I would like it very much if he FUCKED OFF in May.

Please. God. Please.

   

[Walmley_Villa]

Joy Division - Closer for me, a sad album to match my mood.

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

I hate losing. I hate losing to anyone at anything, whether it is my best mate when we play golf for £10 or a game of Mario Kart with my 6 year old son. However,  if i've done my best and got beat by the better man/6 year old I accept it and get on with life.

The difference between my philosophy and those of Aston Villa is I don't spend all week practising my skills on the golf course or Nintendo Wii.

To see Carlos Cuellar and Nathan Delfouneso embracing, shaking hands and laughing with Ashley Young at half time after he had cheated us and THEM made me feel sick. When I play golf, I've never once cheated, if I want to beat my mate at golf I want to beat him properly without cheating. Fortunately he's of the same mind as me and won't do the same but if I played against someone who cheated me intentionally I want to chin them. How the fuck, as professional sportsmen, who are meant to have a competitiveness about them be like that with him? So then I look to the managers assistant and see him applauding Rooney off the pitch and the example is there isn't it?

Yes, we have a massive amount of injuries, and of course Ginger Bollocks can't be blamed for that, but to see the likes of Bannan and Gabby go backwards so quickly is alarming. We honestly look like a kids team playing two years behind their year group. We have some tidy footballers who can obviously do a lot of positive things but we really don't have the nous and intelligence to do them because we're playing against the bigger boys. Shay Given bless him must think he's the Uncle left to look after all the kids.

The same things are happening every week pretty much, the late goal (in each half today), the goals conceded from corners, the lack of goals scored from set pieces and the manager and his coaches appear at the moment to have no accountability. We all go to work, we all have our responsibilities - if we don't perform we lose our jobs, the bills don't get paid and wife gets on our case because she can't have the latest Prada handbag.

It fucks me off that these fucking millionaire footballers, coaches and owners have absolutely no accountability for what they do every time they represent our club.

I honestly don't give a fuck if we go down or not, I want people at my club who care, I want people at my club who hurt when we get beat, when we are cheated. If it means we end up playing Colchester United in division 4 (or whatever it's called) to get people into our club that are bothered then so be it - I'm sick of it

[Summers]

I hate losing. I hate losing to anyone at anything, whether it is my best mate when we play golf for £10 or a game of Mario Kart with my 6 year old son. However,  if i've done my best and got beat by the better man/6 year old I accept it and get on with life.

The difference between my philosophy and those of Aston Villa is I don't spend all week practising my skills on the golf course or Nintendo Wii.

To see Carlos Cuellar and Nathan Delfouneso embracing, shaking hands and laughing with Ashley Young at half time after he had cheated us and THEM made me feel sick. When I play golf, I've never once cheated, if I want to beat my mate at golf I want to beat him properly without cheating. Fortunately he's of the same mind as me and won't do the same but I played against someone who cheated me intentionally I want to chin them. How the fuck, as professional sportsmen, who are meant to have a competitiveness about them be like that with him? So then I look to the managers assistant and see him applauding Rooney off the pitch and the example is there isn't it?

Yes, we have a massive amount of injuries, and of course Ginger Bollocks can't be blamed for that, but to see the likes of Bannan and Gabby go backwards so quickly is alarming. We honestly look like a kids team playing two years behind their year group. We have some tidy footballers who can obviously do a lot of positive things but we really don't have the nous and intelligence to do them because we're playing against the bigger boys. Shay Given bless him must think he's the Uncle left to look after all the kids.

The same things are happening every week pretty much, the late goal (in each half today), the goals conceded from corners, the lack of goals scored from set pieces and the manager and his coaches appear at the moment to have no accountability. We all go to work, we all have our responsibilities - if we don't perform we lose our jobs, the bills don't get paid and wife gets on our case because she can't have the latest Prada handbag.

It fucks me off that these fucking millionaire footballers, coaches and owners have absolutely no accountability for what they do every time they represent our club.

I honestly don't give a fuck if we go down or not, I want people at my club who care, I want people at my club who hurt when we get beat, when we are cheated. If it means we end up playing Colchester United in division 4 (or whatever it's called) to get people into our club that are bothered then so be it - I'm sick of it

Here fucking here.

[danlanza]

Joy Division - Closer for me, a sad album to match my mood.

PinkFloyd-see you on the dark side of the moon.

[Steve kirk]

Another poster here who started in the sixties, what a great post by Brian Green said all the things that I am feeling and thinking, saw us fall out of Division 1 in 1967 then into Division 3 in 1970 but it never felt as bad as this, maybe then as a teenager I saw things differently to now when I am so despondent about our current plight, it feels like a slow death and another relegation will come soon and where we are heading after that I dread to think.
It was always doomed to failure with Mcshit, what was Randy thinking?, when we are finally safe there will be a huge sigh of relief followed by the realisation that we face another season of the same or worse.
Load the gun Randy before its too late.           

[andrew08]

I think you have to take the theatre of dreams quotation from McLeish in context of the whole interview. I took it to mean that our young side gave it their best shot at an extremely difficult place to play. 'The theatre of dreams' emphasises how difficult the game was for us and we just aren't in the same place quality wise as the Man U side currently (and let's be honest we haven't been much in the 40 odd years I've been going)

anyway the genius that his 'array did far worse than McLeish today in a more evenly matched game.

That's supposed to make me feel better.....it hasn't

[Apyadg]

(and let's be honet we haven't been much in the 40 odd years I've been going)

And yet we occasionally get a result, and we get it by going and giving them a game. McLeish's strategy of rolling over and playing dead whenever we come up across any of the top teams will never even get us a draw, we may as well officially surrender and save the petrol money.

[danlanza]

I hate losing. I hate losing to anyone at anything, whether it is my best mate when we play golf for £10 or a game of Mario Kart with my 6 year old son. However,  if i've done my best and got beat by the better man/6 year old I accept it and get on with life.

The difference between my philosophy and those of Aston Villa is I don't spend all week practising my skills on the golf course or Nintendo Wii.

To see Carlos Cuellar and Nathan Delfouneso embracing, shaking hands and laughing with Ashley Young at half time after he had cheated us and THEM made me feel sick. When I play golf, I've never once cheated, if I want to beat my mate at golf I want to beat him properly without cheating. Fortunately he's of the same mind as me and won't do the same but if I played against someone who cheated me intentionally I want to chin them. How the fuck, as professional sportsmen, who are meant to have a competitiveness about them be like that with him? So then I look to the managers assistant and see him applauding Rooney off the pitch and the example is there isn't it?

Yes, we have a massive amount of injuries, and of course Ginger Bollocks can't be blamed for that, but to see the likes of Bannan and Gabby go backwards so quickly is alarming. We honestly look like a kids team playing two years behind their year group. We have some tidy footballers who can obviously do a lot of positive things but we really don't have the nous and intelligence to do them because we're playing against the bigger boys. Shay Given bless him must think he's the Uncle left to look after all the kids.

The same things are happening every week pretty much, the late goal (in each half today), the goals conceded from corners, the lack of goals scored from set pieces and the manager and his coaches appear at the moment to have no accountability. We all go to work, we all have our responsibilities - if we don't perform we lose our jobs, the bills don't get paid and wife gets on our case because she can't have the latest Prada handbag.

It fucks me off that these fucking millionaire footballers, coaches and owners have absolutely no accountability for what they do every time they represent our club.

I honestly don't give a fuck if we go down or not, I want people at my club who care, I want people at my club who hurt when we get beat, when we are cheated. If it means we end up playing Colchester United in division 4 (or whatever it's called) to get people into our club that are bothered then so be it - I'm sick of it

Heart  and soul.the best reply all night my friend.up the villa.

[andrew08]

(and let's be honet we haven't been much in the 40 odd years I've been going)

And yet we occasionally get a result, and we get it by going and giving them a game. McLeish's strategy of rolling over and playing dead whenever we come up across any of the top teams will never even get us a draw, we may as well officially surrender and save the petrol money.

we never got the chance. The penalty killed us and I thought we were doing ok until the second finished us off.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Another poster here who started in the sixties, what a great post by Brian Green said all the things that I am feeling and thinking, saw us fall out of Division 1 in 1967 then into Division 3 in 1970 but it never felt as bad as this, maybe then as a teenager I saw things differently to now when I am so despondent about our current plight, it feels like a slow death and another relegation will come soon and where we are heading after that I dread to think.
It was always doomed to failure with Mcshit, what was Randy thinking?, when we are finally safe there will be a huge sigh of relief followed by the realisation that we face another season of the same or worse.
Load the gun Randy before its too late.           

This. Big time.
Been going down the Villa for 50 years and don't think things have ever been this bad.

[PeterWithesShin]

If we are re-living 1987 I suppose i'd better go and crack one out to Sabrina.

[hawkeye]

PMS no 55, sums it up for me UTV