Manchester United v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Irish villain]

He's a disgrace to our great club. Ashamed.

Fair play to you Legion. Exactly how I feel.

[rob_bridge]

If we are re-living 1987 I suppose i'd better go and crack one out to Sabrina.

Sabrina was 1988 on the way back. Believe me I was 14/15

[Rob92]

I'm not long back from work and watching a repeat of the game on Sky. Exactly what we all expected. It's utterly embarrassing.

I think we'll be alright this season (just) but I seriously fear for next season if we don't significantly improve our squad in the summer.

[tomd2103]

"The young lions have come to the Theatre of Dreams, the champions, a world-class club side playing against people like Scholes thinking can we get close to them, can we stop them playing?

From McLeish after match report on the OS. Two words, McLeish Out!

Link please?

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2736541,00.html

So embarassing.

How anyone can support this bloke is beyond me.

That beggars belief.

It's worse than the Anfield guff that Houllier came out with last season, which he was rightly slaughtered for. And he does it over again, bigging up the opposition and talking about stopping them playing, as if that's what the game is all about.  What about making them worry about stopping us Alex?   He really doesn't have a fucking clue does he?

Exactly.  Taken from an interview from today's Independent with Martinez:

"When you are playing the biggest teams, going to Stamford Bridge or the Emirates, playing Manchester United, you need to be yourself. The opposition will have real quality and will have the ball for long periods, but that does not mean you do not be yourself when you get the ball."

"It means", he added, "to reject the old philosophy of keeping the score down, taking the top teams on instead".

"Away from home, convincing players they can beat top teams has been a target," said Martinez, "not just stopping the opposition, but playing yourself too".

"There is a real feeling of being brave, of trying to win the game, not settling for damage limitation".

I'm not sure why the interviewer did not ask why his Wigan team wait until March of each season to start playing like that, but it is in stark contrast to the quotes McLeish comes out with.

[D.boy]

Listened to the game (well one team were playing) on the radio. For some reason I wasn't suprised or bothered when it went to 2-0 everything else was just "meh" after. I have lost all enthusiasm to be honest and the end of the season can't come soon enough. I didn't expect us to win but each week is becoming more and more painful to watch. The commentators were calling us "inept, poor" etc. It's all become very depressing.

[JUAN PABLO]

Lee Dixon just said Mcshit has done an alright job , what is up with these muppets.

[pauliewalnuts]

I had to laugh just now. Read on Twitter that when Young went off and our subs were shaking hands with him, Carlos held his arms out as if to say "what was that?" (meaning the dive), Young said "it was a foul", Carlos replied with "was it fuck".

made me chuckle.

[tomd2103]

Why can't he just say "Old Trafford" and describe his team as young players?   This bollocks about Theatre of Dreams is something they have created for marketing purposes.   Its all so fucking naff and he becomes not our manager but their mouthpiece.   To listen to that after the agony of yet another humiliating defeat is like being offered a nice cup of cocoa on your way to the electric chair.

But this sort of bollocks is now as predictable as our dire performances and regular acquiensence to the 'elite'. While we all recognise Mcleish as being a man completely out of his depth, there's no excuse for the Club's PR department allowing him to repeatedly make so many gaffs. You'd think that for once they would help him to prepare something rather more respectful to the fans and players.

I maybe wrong (and maybe being a little harsh), but I get the impression that McLeish is not too intelligent.  I can't listen to him speaking on the TV or the radio, as he is so uninspiring and seems to really struggle to come out with anything coherent. 

[ROBBO]

I thought before the game they would get four past us, what is disturbing is how the younger players are following the senior players lead and not moving. At one time we were in possession and four Villa players close to the ball carrier were playing statues. Barry Bannon is never going to be premiership quality and i have doubts about Gardner too, it's great having a top academy but whats the point if at least one ot to develope in to premiership players.

[dl9]

I had to laugh just now. Read on Twitter that when Young went off and our subs were shaking hands with him, Carlos held his arms out as if to say "what was that?" (meaning the dive), Young said "it was a foul", Carlos replied with "was it fuck".

made me chuckle.

It's okay as I have also just read that Pep Guardiola, Iniesta, Xavi and Messi both want to come over and help save Villa's season as our colours are similar to Barca's and should we drop out of the Prem then there'll be no one left.

Ronaldo too has asked to come also for absolutely no reason other than he never got to go to Stoney Lane for a chicken balti whilst over here and thus is keen to help where he can.

Oh god, the nurse is here again, sorry matron honestly I'm fine, please, no...not there.........aaaahh.

[hartman_1982]

I thought before the game they would get four past us, what is disturbing is how the younger players are following the senior players lead and not moving. At one time we were in possession and four Villa players close to the ball carrier were playing statues. Barry Bannon is never going to be premiership quality and i have doubts about Gardner too, it's great having a top academy but whats the point if at least one ot to develope in to premiership players.

You have doubts over Gardner after 12 appearances, playing in an unnatural position, while the team is on a horrific run? Nothing like give the kids a chance!

[SashasGrandad]

He did this all the time when he was with us and got nothing.

Now he knows he will get quite a few decisions because of who he plays for.

[ktvillan]

"The young lions have come to the Theatre of Dreams, the champions, a world-class club side playing against people like Scholes thinking can we get close to them, can we stop them playing?

From McLeish after match report on the OS. Two words, McLeish Out!

Link please?

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2736541,00.html

So embarassing.

How anyone can support this bloke is beyond me.

That beggars belief.

It's worse than the Anfield guff that Houllier came out with last season, which he was rightly slaughtered for. And he does it over again, bigging up the opposition and talking about stopping them playing, as if that's what the game is all about.  What about making them worry about stopping us Alex?   He really doesn't have a fucking clue does he?

Exactly.  Taken from an interview from today's Independent with Martinez:

"When you are playing the biggest teams, going to Stamford Bridge or the Emirates, playing Manchester United, you need to be yourself. The opposition will have real quality and will have the ball for long periods, but that does not mean you do not be yourself when you get the ball."

"It means", he added, "to reject the old philosophy of keeping the score down, taking the top teams on instead".

"Away from home, convincing players they can beat top teams has been a target," said Martinez, "not just stopping the opposition, but playing yourself too".

"There is a real feeling of being brave, of trying to win the game, not settling for damage limitation".

I'm not sure why the interviewer did not ask why his Wigan team wait until March of each season to start playing like that, but it is in stark contrast to the quotes McLeish comes out with.

Martinez is far from perfect but you can forgive a manager a lot if he at least goes out with the right philosophy of believing you can win, or at least have a good go at it.  It's this attitude of McLeish's of giving up before you've even started that I really can't stand.

[markus209]

[hawkeye]

He did this all the time when he was with us and got nothing.

Now he knows he will get quite a few decisions because of who he plays for.

That is shocking, I have no idea how he feels tonight, but if that was me I would feel ashamed.