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Author Topic: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.  (Read 1525750 times)

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5535 on: May 24, 2012, 12:01:16 AM »
It is ridiculous going for all these foreign managers. Allardyce, McCarthy or Coyle should be the targets. They have the experience.
But they have still had experience. Who is left?

Of taking their clubs down............

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5536 on: May 24, 2012, 12:04:36 AM »
I would love it if we showed the ambition to take on AVB. But can't see it.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5537 on: May 24, 2012, 12:06:10 AM »
If we've no money Martinez might be a decent shout, bringing Figueroa (sp?) Diame and Rodellaga on Bosmans, and getting the best out of CNZ.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5538 on: May 24, 2012, 12:08:21 AM »
I would love it if we showed the ambition to take on AVB. But can't see it.

So he can get bullied by Messrs Collins & Dunne the way Terry & Lampard did.

The only decent thing about him is his middle name. Like Houllier, AVB would lose the dressing room before he stepped anywhere near it.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5539 on: May 24, 2012, 12:21:57 AM »
Remember back in the 70's when the fan's choice  Brian Clough issued his, 'Come and get me,' plea and the club went out and appointed dour, defensive Ron Saunders instead?..

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5540 on: May 24, 2012, 12:44:03 AM »
Remember back in the 70's when the fan's choice  Brian Clough issued his, 'Come and get me,' plea and the club went out and appointed dour, defensive Ron Saunders instead?..

Not sure what the point is. We might have won even more with Clough.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5541 on: May 24, 2012, 12:46:35 AM »
Glenn Roeder is a managerial genius. His time has obviously come...
...and gone

Offline DeKuip

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5542 on: May 24, 2012, 12:47:38 AM »
I would love it if we showed the ambition to take on AVB. But can't see it.

So he can get bullied by Messrs Collins & Dunne the way Terry & Lampard did.

The only decent thing about him is his middle name. Like Houllier, AVB would lose the dressing room before he stepped anywhere near it.
AVB's experience with Chelsea was similar in many way to Ron Saunders' at Man City. Taking on a group of senior pros who had been highly successful under a previous manager and losing, yet would you say Saunders was bullied? No, he took on the big reputation players like Summerbee, Lee, Bell, Law and Marsh and tried the treat them in the same way he did the younger players – but the problem is that it's these big name established players who control the dressing room. Similar at Chelsea really as AVB unsettled the dressing room by not bowing to the reputation of those who run it. That's not being bullied, that's being brave.
Should AVB come to Villa he'll find the senior players who might think they run the dressing room are hardly "untouchables" like Summerbee, Lee, Terry, Lampard etc. He's not going to have the fans, media, or senior club officials on his back for daring to leave out Collins or Warnock.
AVB had also been at Chelsea when Mourinho was there, as one of his underlings compiling dossiers on the opposition and doing dvd presentations. To come back to the same group of players and earn respect as boss was always going to be difficult.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5543 on: May 24, 2012, 12:50:55 AM »
I would love it if we showed the ambition to take on AVB. But can't see it.

So he can get bullied by Messrs Collins & Dunne the way Terry & Lampard did.

The only decent thing about him is his middle name. Like Houllier, AVB would lose the dressing room before he stepped anywhere near it.
AVB's experience with Chelsea was similar in many way to Ron Saunders' at Man City. Taking on a group of senior pros who had been highly successful under a previous manager and losing, yet would you say Saunders was bullied? No, he took on the big reputation players like Summerbee, Lee, Bell, Law and Marsh and tried the treat them in the same way he did the younger players – but the problem is that it's these big name established players who control the dressing room. Similar at Chelsea really as AVB unsettled the dressing room by not bowing to the reputation of those who run it. That's not being bullied, that's being brave.
Should AVB come to Villa he'll find the senior players who might think they run the dressing room are hardly "untouchables" like Summerbee, Lee, Terry, Lampard etc. He's not going to have the fans, media, or senior club officials on his back for daring to leave out Collins or Warnock.
AVB had also been at Chelsea when Mourinho was there, as one of his underlings compiling dossiers on the opposition and doing dvd presentations. To come back to the same group of players and earn respect as boss was always going to be difficult.
Agree. That would have been hard under any circumstances, but trying to build up respect from the same players he was trying to move on (Fat Frank, Terry, Anelka etc) was always going to be mission impossible.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5544 on: May 24, 2012, 01:12:14 AM »
If Villas Boas learned from his mistakes at Chelsea and wouldn't let the more senior players have their way then I think he could be good. I think it would be hard though because from being a huge success at Porto and then jumping at a great oppotunity to manage Chelsea (too soon) transitioning to the premier league but failed he would feel confused as to which way his managing career is going. Would he want to try and prove himself again at a premier league club after already failing or would he want to return somewhere more familiar where he would feel back at sqaure 1? Or maybe he might end up managing elsewhere in Europe in a new enviroment which would feel like a fresh start for him - my money is he will go down the latter route.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5545 on: May 24, 2012, 01:21:43 AM »
Remember back in the 70's when the fan's choice  Brian Clough issued his, 'Come and get me,' plea and the club went out and appointed dour, defensive Ron Saunders instead?..

Not sure what the point is. We might have won even more with Clough.

Whistling in the dark probably. Honestly gutted OGS is staying put but hoping that, as back then, whoever's appointed has the same galvanising effect on the club

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5546 on: May 24, 2012, 01:28:50 AM »
Saw Gareth Southgate talking about the job on Central News earlier.  He's obviously involved with the FA set up now and was hardly a success during his time at Middlesbrough, but would he have been preferable to some of the names that are being mentioned?
« Last Edit: May 24, 2012, 02:01:23 AM by tomd2103 »

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5547 on: May 24, 2012, 02:49:26 AM »
No.

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5548 on: May 24, 2012, 02:50:56 AM »
Not sure of Dominoes Pizza but it'd be great if we could get a manager in his mid 40's with European experience and a great network of scouts, in an ideal world there would be 3 or 4 clambering to join us but I don't think there is. AVB for me.

Offline Lamb_Stockmix

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Re: Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.
« Reply #5549 on: May 24, 2012, 03:17:53 AM »
It is ridiculous going for all these foreign managers. Allardyce, McCarthy or Coyle should be the targets. They have the experience.

It's that kind of thinking that got us into this mess. What terrible suggestions.

Poyet or Nigel Adkins (off the top of my head) are approachable and quite frankly shit on those 3.

 


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