Who do you want as the next manager? New poll option.

[Concrete John]

It's going to cost at least £20m just buy a new defence.

Good scouting and you could sort our defence for about 10-12 million I reckon. Clark, Lichaz and Dunne stay, the rest go. Naughton, Clyne at full backs won't cost the earth, the lad at Watford at centre half would be about 4 million. Then coach them, and protect them through the midfield.

Delaney - Mellberg - Laursen - Bouma

£12m that lot cost. I'm pretty sure we can find a few decent defenders if just for once we didn't just buy whichever reserve team waster happened to be being pushed out of a club that week.

Vidic, Agger, Skrtl, Kompany, Evra, Sagna - all cheaper than Cuellar was.

And I like Cuellar, but god it would nice to have a manager for once who didn't just think we are only allowed to buy players from Britain.

Inflate they £12m to today's prices and you're talking £20m.

There are some bargains, but if we get one we're doing well, so have to be prepared to pay nearer the going rate for a couple more.

[villa `cross the mersey]

Capello!

Stranger things have happened and he does appear to have his own seat at Villa Park

[ozzjim]

It's going to cost at least £20m just buy a new defence.

Good scouting and you could sort our defence for about 10-12 million I reckon. Clark, Lichaz and Dunne stay, the rest go. Naughton, Clyne at full backs won't cost the earth, the lad at Watford at centre half would be about 4 million. Then coach them, and protect them through the midfield.

Delaney - Mellberg - Laursen - Bouma

£12m that lot cost. I'm pretty sure we can find a few decent defenders if just for once we didn't just buy whichever reserve team waster happened to be being pushed out of a club that week.

Vidic, Agger, Skrtl, Kompany, Evra, Sagna - all cheaper than Cuellar was.

And I like Cuellar, but god it would nice to have a manager for once who didn't just think we are only allowed to buy players from Britain.

Inflate they £12m to today's prices and you're talking £20m.

There are some bargains, but if we get one we're doing well, so have to be prepared to pay nearer the going rate for a couple more.

I still disagree John. Looking around Europe you could build a defence for under 12 million.

[old man villa fan]

I am not saying Martinez is the man for the job but some people should try and find out why Wigan start slowly and finish the season well before saying he is a crap manager.

For the last couple of seasons he has been using young players on loan that he loses at the end of each season.  Last season it was Cleverley.  Add to this losing probably their best player in N'Zogbia, being hit with injuries to key players and then not having any real money to spend.  Each season he starts from scratch.

Martinez has qualities but like many others, he has his faults.  His qualities outweigh his faults to make him far better than a shit manager.

It seems as though we are starting down the same route again with people saying they want this manager or that manager and dismissing others by over exaggerating their shortcomings.  People are setting themselves up for taking a very negative stance against the new manager if it is not the manager they want.

My opinion is that we need a manager that is going to set the club on the way to achieve something in 3 to 5 years as realistically it is going to take us that long to get there from where we are now, unless major investment is made in the team.  Whether the manager stays for that long or not, he needs to set progression in motion and leave something good for the next manager to take on.  For this reason, I do not think the current big name managers would be right unless Randy has a few dollars more to invest.

We have cleared quite a few high end earners off the wage bill over the last 12 months with a few more that are coming to ends of contracts.  From a wage point of view, we are almost starting from a clean slate so that a wage structure can be put in place that is sustainable.  This means that our income will exceed our expenditure by a fair bit and with a little investment, the new manager can rebuild the squad around the quality players and the young players we have.

Here's to the future and let's get behind the manager.

[Concrete John]

I agree you could, but to me that's like saying a £5m striker could net you 20 goals a season.  As in it happens rarely and you more than likely need to spend more!

[Louzie0]

AVB.
Or Hoddle.

[Porky]

Jesus Christ all of the above managers are one trick ponies.  We need investment first from our Bright Future owner or we will end up with the managers listed.

Try Glen Hoddle, Ray Wilkins etc but would they come with Randy`s cash flow system, why bother.

[Dave]

Inflate they £12m to today's prices and you're talking £20m

You say 'price' like it's a case of going to the player supermarket and asking how much it would cost to buy a good midfielder.

Was Cabaye 'today's price' at £4.3m? Jelavic at £6m? Ben Arfa at £4.7m? Vorm at £1.5m?

Or are their clubs just not as incompetent as we have been for the last decade?

[VILLA MOLE]

AVB.
Or Hoddle.

try and ask a dingle about sir glenn

[Greg N'Ash]

Moyes was the guy we should have had instead of MON. Would have got us into the top4 on a fraction of the money we pissed away. . Not sure any of you have seen this site, but the villa part makes scary reading as does MON's place in the manager's spending legue.  45m net spend in one season ffs.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/aston-villa-transfers.html

[richardhubbard]

Anyone mentioned hughes, still rate him and done a good job at any club he had time at

[Concrete John]

Inflate they £12m to today's prices and you're talking £20m

You say 'price' like it's a case of going to the player supermarket and asking how much it would cost to buy a good midfielder.

Was Cabaye 'today's price' at £4.3m? Jelavic at £6m? Ben Arfa at £4.7m? Vorm at £1.5m?

Or are their clubs just not as incompetent as we have been for the last decade?

Very true.

I'm not excluding the possibility of signing a player like that, just stressing the unlikelihood of a whole defence of them during one summer.

[Irish villain]

If it was Moyes, it'd cause a meltdown here!

[willywombat]

What's the betting on some left field, frying pan into fire appointment like Bob Bradley?

[Dave]

Inflate they £12m to today's prices and you're talking £20m

You say 'price' like it's a case of going to the player supermarket and asking how much it would cost to buy a good midfielder.

Was Cabaye 'today's price' at £4.3m? Jelavic at £6m? Ben Arfa at £4.7m? Vorm at £1.5m?

Or are their clubs just not as incompetent as we have been for the last decade?

Very true.

I'm not excluding the possibility of signing a player like that, just stressing the unlikelihood of a whole defence of them during one summer.

Certainly if we keep up the policies of the O'Neill/McLeish tenure.  And to be honest, people taking the attitude of "we can't try and compete unless we throw a fuck-load of money at it" is just a bit saddening.

Because it's not true and just breeds laziness.