Aston Villa fans' group in call to join protest against Alex Mcleish

[MonsXI]

Right firstly I believe if these guys wanna protest then thats their right, personally getting i feel that getting behind the team is more productive. Secondly yes I don't want Mcleish as manager but whenever they say their talking for the majority of Villa fans they are not yes we might not want him but you protest for yourself and no one else.

[paul_e]

As much as I think we need to get rid of Big Feck to move the club forwards, I'm firmly in the group that thinks these things are best left to the summer. For the next few months we need to get behind the team to ensure we're playing Premier League football next year. Once we've guaranteed that, I'll happily get involved in these shenanigans.

It's this that makes it so difficult.  Wanting to get behind the team is admirable, and the right thing to do but, when we're safe, it's much harder to get people to protest because there's no immediate danger.  The reality is there won't ever be a good time to arrange a protest.

[Legion]

Next season worries me greatly.

[Risso]

Slaven Bilic 400,000 a year as Croatia manager..    quarter of the price of McLeish

I think we all know that McLeish is being paid far more than his talents deserve, but has Bilic done anything that warrants us being particularly impressed by him?

Well he's obviously got no league record, but qualifying for two out of three major international tournaments with Croatia isn't a bad achievement.

The other way of phrasing it though is that he wasn't able to qualify for a tournament for only the second time since Croatia became an independent country, despite having some extremely good players. He's managed to finish behind both Greece and Ukraine in the last couple of qualifying groups.

He seems to have a good reputation because he looks good in a suit, has an earring and managed to (just about) beat that dreadful McClaren England team.

Obviously he'd be better than McLeish but as John says, that doesn't automatically mean he should be given time of day.

I don't think that anybody was necessarily saying he was, just that at £400,000 pa he's quite cheap, especially when compared to McLeish.

[Legion]

I'll do it for £40K.

[Villanation]

McLiesh has got to be pretty thick skinned to sit there through 90 mins of discontent

Is '90 minutes of discontent' likely to be a helpful atmosphere to help us beat Chelsea on Saturday?

Dave, where not a philanthropic institute, whereby we turn up with some kind of benevolent mantra in order to say "come on chaps" "for king and country" we're all behind you, do you seriously believe that Chelsea are going to turn up in a giving mood, if Chelsea still have a backbone they are going to go after this like a rabid dog, they have players starting to hit form, Torres is on the way back, Villa are all but safe, we probably need another win and that should seal it but i genuinely don't think that Chelsea will roll over and let us have that, and I don't think we have the team anyway to take 3 points off Chelsea.

We will have the chance to get the required points and that will do us, surely what we have to do now is think on, think of next season and if we do that and show a bit of ambition maybe we will keep a few of the players we should keep.

[PeterWithesShin]

Torres hitting form? 2 goals against a championship side (his only goals for 5 months) and we should suddenly give up and shit ourselves?

We don't have the team to beat them? I must have imagined the game at their place 3 months ago.

And I bet you think McLeish is defeatist.

[Villanation]

Torres hitting form? 2 goals against a championship side (his only goals for 5 months) and we should suddenly give up and shit ourselves?

We don't have the team to beat them? I must have imagined the game at their place 3 months ago.

And I bet you think McLeish is defeatist.

Torres is starting to show again I certainly don't want to tempt providence on that one, I don't think we have the team now to beat them, as in this coming game.

Do I think McLiesh is a defeatist, I don't think he understands the meaning of the word.

[PeterWithesShin]

Did you think we had the team to win there 3 months ago?

[ozzjim]

McLiesh has got to be pretty thick skinned to sit there through 90 mins of discontent

Is '90 minutes of discontent' likely to be a helpful atmosphere to help us beat Chelsea on Saturday?

The thing is, as admirable as the support at all costs line is, it is taking it lying down IMO.

[MonsXI]

McLiesh has got to be pretty thick skinned to sit there through 90 mins of discontent

Is '90 minutes of discontent' likely to be a helpful atmosphere to help us beat Chelsea on Saturday?

The thing is, as admirable as the support at all costs line is, it is taking it lying down IMO.

Ok so if not protesting is lying down, how many fans protests have actually achieved their goal? Not many green and yellow scarfs at OT nowadays.

[DB]

Next season worries me greatly.

Agreed. If he is in charge then we will be in mix for relegation, a lot more than this season.....we could go down.

[DB]

Problem is lee, 30k getting behind the team can be seen as simply accepting him.

No, as some ahve said, leave it till the summer when the Footy can not get affected.

[Greg N'Ash]

I think its going to take a long time to sink in with Lerner that people want him out now because of results rather than the blose thing. But then you can't really blame him for having that opinion when fuckwits demonstrate against the manager before the team has kicked a ball. Doh, facepalm etc...

[Legion]

I think its going to take a long time to sink in with Lerner that people want him out now because of results rather than the blose thing. But then you can't really blame him for having that opinion when fuckwits demonstrate against the manager before the team has kicked a ball. Doh, facepalm etc...

Perhaps it needs a carefully worded letter?

Dear Mr. Lerner,

Please sack Alex McLeish because he is a shit manager and we deserve better.

Lots of love,

etc. etc. etc.