Aston Villa fans' group in call to join protest against Alex Mcleish

[Dave]

Slaven Bilic 400,000 a year as Croatia manager..    quarter of the price of McLeish

I think we all know that McLeish is being paid far more than his talents deserve, but has Bilic done anything that warrants us being particularly impressed by him?

Well he's obviously got no league record, but qualifying for two out of three major international tournaments with Croatia isn't a bad achievement.

The other way of phrasing it though is that he wasn't able to qualify for a tournament for only the second time since Croatia became an independent country, despite having some extremely good players. He's managed to finish behind both Greece and Ukraine in the last couple of qualifying groups.

He seems to have a good reputation because he looks good in a suit, has an earring and managed to (just about) beat that dreadful McClaren England team.

Obviously he'd be better than McLeish but as John says, that doesn't automatically mean he should be given time of day.

[Villanation]

I'm going hell for leather to try and make it there.

Its very simple, Do you want McLiesh in charge next season, or, do you want him out?, that's it.

From what I can see the management are already making plans to keep him next season and beyond, I can see Villa going into massive decline, its now down to the fans to force the point, the management is out of touch or not listening, so they must be made to listen and in my opinion nobody protest like a Villa fan once we get stuck in, even the unmovable Ellis gave way and got rid of O'Leary once the banners started rolling out.

Now is the time, the season is over in all but name only for Villa, the fans have to start thinking of next season, getting excited about next season, getting hopeful and having ambitions about what might be, me personally if I have to look at another season's crap like this one, then that's it for me I'll just kick footy into touch and take up watching tiddlywinks as the better and more exciting option than watching Villa slog through another season.

IMO, If there are 30,000 Villa fans in the ground then we should see 30,000 demonstrating and making there feeling known.

[JUAN PABLO]

I would have it for 400,000 a year than McLeish for £2 million .

not that I want him but any one else than our manager right now .

[Legion]

30,000 supporting our team would be better. Why does everyone have to have the same opinion as you?

[JUAN PABLO]

Ive got these horrible butterflies in my stomach at the moment  , ever since McLeish became manager , they are getting worse. They wont be gone , first when Heskey has gone and hopefully when  the manager too. 

Its a bloody horrid feeling I have .

[Chipsticks]

No matter what I say on here, I just know that I'll end up eating a balti pie watching the 45 protesters dance around with their homemade 'McLeish out!' placards.

As much as I think we need to get rid of Big Feck to move the club forwards, I'm firmly in the group that thinks these things are best left to the summer. For the next few months we need to get behind the team to ensure we're playing Premier League football next year. Once we've guaranteed that, I'll happily get involved in these shenanigans.

[dave.woodhall]

No matter what I say on here, I just know that I'll end up eating a balti pie watching the 45 protesters dance around with their homemade 'McLeish out!' placards.

As much as I think we need to get rid of Big Feck to move the club forwards, I'm firmly in the group that thinks these things are best left to the summer. For the next few months we need to get behind the team to ensure we're playing Premier League football next year. Once we've guaranteed that, I'll happily get involved in these shenanigans.

How difficult is that to understand?

[ozzjim]

Problem is lee, 30k getting behind the team can be seen as simply accepting him.

[Villanation]

30,000 supporting our team would be better. Why does everyone have to have the same opinion as you?

You can have 130,000 fans supporting the team, it will make no difference whatsoever as to the result or as to the status of the team and the appalling white flag negative football we are playing, we may not all agree totally on the minor details of the points raised but one thing is patently obvious, change has to be made and its becoming obvious that its going to be down to the fans to push that through.

For me it very very simple, there is right and there is wrong and McLiesh is wrong for Villa, anybody can have the opinion that McLiesh can stay, no problem with that, providing they don't mind seeing the inevitable decline of the club under his management, all Villa fans I know detest the football and detest the way the club is going.

If anyone wants to support the team/club, then look beyond what you may think is the case and see what is actually happening, the right way to support the club is for the overall good of the football club and its future, it may not be something you agree with now, but this time next season you will if McLiesh is still in charge.

[john e]

Problem is lee, 30k getting behind the team can be seen as simply accepting him.

its a bit like supporting the troops but not the war

[TheSandman]

A protest will achieve absolutely nothing. It will not change anyone at the club's opinion. Mr Lerner is not listening.

If you want to show your displeasure, don't go. Or even better, bide your time and play the long game as such a truly sub-standard employee will eventually either improve or most likely be on the dole before long.

[Legion]

As much as I think we need to get rid of Big Feck to move the club forwards, I'm firmly in the group that thinks these things are best left to the summer. For the next few months we need to get behind the team to ensure we're playing Premier League football next year. Once we've guaranteed that, I'll happily get involved in these shenanigans.

[Villanation]

A protest will achieve absolutely nothing. It will not change anyone at the club's opinion. Mr Lerner is not listening.

If you want to show your displeasure, don't go. Or even better, bide your time and play the long game as such a truly sub-standard employee will eventually either improve or most likely be on the dole before long.

2 good points, Mr Lerner has stopped listening, no question about that, problem is people stop going and the club falls into financial ruin and its gone anyway, its up to the fans now and McLiesh has got to be pretty thick skinned to sit there through 90 mins of discontent, no point waiting till the summer, we start looking now and it will take until the summer to replace him and will give the next manager a good close season to work with the squad and build the team he wants.

[Dave]

McLiesh has got to be pretty thick skinned to sit there through 90 mins of discontent

Is '90 minutes of discontent' likely to be a helpful atmosphere to help us beat Chelsea on Saturday?

[Greg N'Ash]

If i was them i'd leave it to the last home game if we're safe. More of an impact. Go on the pitch, stop the lap of (dis)honour from the players, grab the headlines. Now is just pointless - he's not going anywhere till the end of the season at least.