Relegation Possibility

[dave.woodhall]

Would that be the Beye we should have loaned out until we did, then we should have kept him because we weren't saving enough on his wages and we'd never get rid of him, then he left??

[Greg N'Ash]

i'm not digging anywhere. You obviously think our youth players are world beaters on no evidence at all. I disagree.

[hawkeye]

So Greg you think it is impossible for Aston Villa to recruit a decent manager! I dont share your pessimism. Granted with the idiots running the club at the moment it might seem difficult. I think because Martinez turned us down they got scared and hit the panick button. If they thought about it and acted with some level of competance then recruiting Lambert or Rogers is not beyond us. The issue is weteher RL and PF have the gumption to do anything about it.

why would they come to us when there's no money and no team? tell me, because i'd really like to believe there was a logical reason why Lambert would go from a small budget but a team with managaeble fans expectations to no money, no team, but anywhere less than higher mid-table isn't good enough. Martinez looked at us and ran a mile becuse he knew it was a hiding to nothing. Whatever relationship he has with Whelan if he thought it was a good gig he would have gone, but it wasn't and isn't

If anyone can tell me why Villa is an attractive proposition to a good employed manager currently then lets have it, and try not to mention the words "big club". step-up", and "bigger resources" because none of them apply anymore.

Of course they apply, just because these idiots left MON alone with the cheque book for 3 years dosent mean we have become Walsall overnight.

[PeterWithesShin]

i'm not digging anywhere. You obviously think our youth players are world beaters on no evidence at all. I disagree.

So you think we should have kept Beye and filled our reserve side with players like him? And because we haven't we're no longer a big club? Simple yes or no to 2 questions Greg, or will you give a politicians answer yet again?

[Greg N'Ash]

Managers will apply. good managers.? We were hardly knocked down by the rush last time and we were in a far better position then

[hawkeye]

Its not like we are playing 4 or 5 accademy players and getting stuffed 10 nil, most times they are holding thier own, not world beaters but hardly walkovers either.

[Greg N'Ash]

i'm not digging anywhere. You obviously think our youth players are world beaters on no evidence at all. I disagree.

So you think we should have kept Beye and filled our reserve side with players like him? And because we haven't we're no longer a big club? Simple yes or no to 2 questions Greg, or will you give a politicians answer yet again?

The main problem with Beye was his wges. take that away, and if you gave me a choice of a player who's played at his level and one thats played at no decent level i'd know who i would go for. ideally you want reserves and youth players like erm everyone else in the league does

[hawkeye]

Managers will apply. good managers.? We were hardly knocked down by the rush last time and we were in a far better position then

If you believe Swansea and Norwich are somehow bigger clubs that Villa, then there is no arguement.

[Dave Clark Five]

Thank fuck we didn't have the Internet years ago when we got relegated. In those days we just got on with things. Those who didn't want to go again just fucked off until we came good and then became the no.1 fan again.

[PeterWithesShin]

i'm not digging anywhere. You obviously think our youth players are world beaters on no evidence at all. I disagree.

So you think we should have kept Beye and filled our reserve side with players like him? And because we haven't we're no longer a big club? Simple yes or no to 2 questions Greg, or will you give a politicians answer yet again?

The main problem with Beye was his wges. take that away, and if you gave me a choice of a player who's played at his level and one thats played at no decent level i'd know who i would go for. ideally you want reserves and youth players like erm everyone else in the league does

Well it wasn't a yes or no to 2 questions, but a politicians to 1. Still, at least we know you wish we'd kept Beye and played him instead of Lichaj.

[Greg N'Ash]

Its not like we are playing 4 or 5 accademy players and getting stuffed 10 nil, most times they are holding thier own, not world beaters but hardly walkovers either.

Someone like Lambert's got that already though. decent players no worldbeaters, no money. no expectations  Still no-one has told me why he'd jump ship for the same thing but here he's expected to do much much better..

[Monty]

Thank fuck we didn't have the Internet years ago when we got relegated. In those days we just got on with things. Those who didn't want to go again just fucked off until we came good and then became the no.1 fan again.

Relegation is different though. The sheer financial disparity makes relegation a far greater disaster than it was when last we were down.

[TheSandman]

Its not like we are playing 4 or 5 accademy players and getting stuffed 10 nil, most times they are holding thier own, not world beaters but hardly walkovers either.

Someone like Lambert's got that already though. decent players no worldbeaters, no money. no expectations  Still no-one has told me why he'd jump ship for the same thing but here he's expected to do much much better..

Why can't we find the next Lambert or Rodgers or whoever? Would they turn us down due to wanting to stay at Colchester or on the dole after being sacked by Reading? Or if Premier League experience is essential what about finding a Pardew, someone who is underrated but just clicks at a club, would that person prefer to stay on the dole waiting for a club who has a better squad or more money?

[Greg N'Ash]

i'm not digging anywhere. You obviously think our youth players are world beaters on no evidence at all. I disagree.

So you think we should have kept Beye and filled our reserve side with players like him? And because we haven't we're no longer a big club? Simple yes or no to 2 questions Greg, or will you give a politicians answer yet again?

The main problem with Beye was his wges. take that away, and if you gave me a choice of a player who's played at his level and one thats played at no decent level i'd know who i would go for. ideally you want reserves and youth players like erm everyone else in the league does

Well it wasn't a yes or no to 2 questions, but a politicians to 1. Still, at least we know you wish we'd kept Beye and played him instead of Lichaj.

well we're gonna see who's right and soon. If the likes of Lichaj turn out to be premiership class then you can remind me of this thread. If we go down because too much reliance was put on inexperienced kids, well i'll be reminding you for sure :0),

[TheSandman]

i'm not digging anywhere. You obviously think our youth players are world beaters on no evidence at all. I disagree.

So you think we should have kept Beye and filled our reserve side with players like him? And because we haven't we're no longer a big club? Simple yes or no to 2 questions Greg, or will you give a politicians answer yet again?

The main problem with Beye was his wges. take that away, and if you gave me a choice of a player who's played at his level and one thats played at no decent level i'd know who i would go for. ideally you want reserves and youth players like erm everyone else in the league does

Well it wasn't a yes or no to 2 questions, but a politicians to 1. Still, at least we know you wish we'd kept Beye and played him instead of Lichaj.

well we're gonna see who's right and soon. If the likes of Lichaj turn out to be premiership class then you can remind me of this thread. If we go down because too much reliance was put on inexperienced kids, well i'll be reminding you for sure :0),

And would we be more likely to go down because of using someone like Lichaj in the last few games than because of the damage already done when we were relying on more experienced players?