Relegation Possibility

[Dante Lavelli]

Its not like we are playing 4 or 5 accademy players and getting stuffed 10 nil, most times they are holding thier own, not world beaters but hardly walkovers either.

 

Someone like Lambert's got that already though. decent players no worldbeaters, no money. no expectations  Still no-one has told me why he'd jump ship for the same thing but here he's expected to do much much better..

One reason why Lambert #might# jump ship is that there is a ceiling to how good norwich can get, whereas Villa's ceiling is much higher, pretty much anything up to 5 in the near future.  Then you add the superior work conditions, training facilities then I think there is a pretty decent case for him coming if the clubs approached it properly.

A second reason is the size of the average footballer/manager's ego. 

[Dante Lavelli]

most of them aren't good enough.  a couple may make decent reserves or average premier players. The rest will  be in the lower leagues likes all the other great hopes of our youth teams over the last 20 years.  Gabby and Cahill - thats about it.

Didn't Luke Moore start for Swansea recently? 
He was deemed not good enough for us, yet is getting first XI football for swansea (who have a bigger/better squad).

[dave.woodhall]

If only we'd kept Habib Beye.

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm sure you will Greg, you've probably already bookmarked it for future reference.

I had half an inkling to go and watch the top of the table reserves tomorrow. But as you said we don't have a reserve side anymore I'll just spend the evening dreaming of the day when we can be as big a club as Norwich.

[Toronto Villa]

I still cannot believe anyone is still suggesting that Swansea or Norwich City jobs, as well as those manager's have done, and irrespective of who/how our chairman/CEO appear publicly that Villa would not be a significant step up and potentially a much, much better job.

[Greg N'Ash]

Its not like we are playing 4 or 5 accademy players and getting stuffed 10 nil, most times they are holding thier own, not world beaters but hardly walkovers either.

Someone like Lambert's got that already though. decent players no worldbeaters, no money. no expectations  Still no-one has told me why he'd jump ship for the same thing but here he's expected to do much much better..

Why can't we find the next Lambert or Rodgers or whoever? Would they turn us down due to wanting to stay at Colchester or on the dole after being sacked by Reading? Or if Premier League experience is essential what about finding a Pardew, someone who is underrated but just clicks at a club, would that person prefer to stay on the dole waiting for a club who has a better squad or more money?

heh. Could you imagine if we appointed colchester's manager? Randy would be able to hear the cries of "not good enough"  from the states. thats half the problem - a lot of us are still living in 2008.

[hawkeye]

Its not like we are playing 4 or 5 accademy players and getting stuffed 10 nil, most times they are holding thier own, not world beaters but hardly walkovers either.

Someone like Lambert's got that already though. decent players no worldbeaters, no money. no expectations  Still no-one has told me why he'd jump ship for the same thing but here he's expected to do much much better..

Its called ambition, based on your view of the world we would all be swimming around in some a Darwin sludge pool

[Monty]

I still cannot believe anyone is still suggesting that Swansea or Norwich City jobs, as well as those manager's have done, and irrespective of who/how our chairman/CEO appear publicly that Villa would not be a significant step up and potentially a much, much better job.

On the face of it, sure, but the circumstances might not be right. For Rodgers, it might be a safer bet for his career to take it slow at the club he's helped build and knows inside out, rather than risking his short-term reputation on a very big and very difficult re-building job at Villa.

[Greg N'Ash]

Its not like we are playing 4 or 5 accademy players and getting stuffed 10 nil, most times they are holding thier own, not world beaters but hardly walkovers either.

Someone like Lambert's got that already though. decent players no worldbeaters, no money. no expectations  Still no-one has told me why he'd jump ship for the same thing but here he's expected to do much much better..

One reason why Lambert #might# jump ship is that there is a ceiling to how good norwich can get, whereas Villa's ceiling is much higher, pretty much anything up to 5 in the near future.  Then you add the superior work conditions, training facilities then I think there is a pretty decent case for him coming if the clubs approached it properly.

yeah but doesn't this ceiling depend on money. We're not outspending norwich, the opposite in fact and we're still showing massive losses. It's gonna be cut back more next season as well because the guy who owns us basically can't afford us

[Greg N'Ash]

Its not like we are playing 4 or 5 accademy players and getting stuffed 10 nil, most times they are holding thier own, not world beaters but hardly walkovers either.

Someone like Lambert's got that already though. decent players no worldbeaters, no money. no expectations  Still no-one has told me why he'd jump ship for the same thing but here he's expected to do much much better..

Its called ambition, based on your view of the world we would all be swimming around in some a Darwin sludge pool

eh? whats ambitious about moving to a club with no better chance of success?

[hawkeye]

Lerners Financial situation has improved  over the last 6 months

[hawkeye]

Its not like we are playing 4 or 5 accademy players and getting stuffed 10 nil, most times they are holding thier own, not world beaters but hardly walkovers either.

Someone like Lambert's got that already though. decent players no worldbeaters, no money. no expectations  Still no-one has told me why he'd jump ship for the same thing but here he's expected to do much much better..

Its called ambition, based on your view of the world we would all be swimming around in some a Darwin sludge pool

eh? whats ambitious about moving to a club with no better chance of success?

face palm

[PeterWithesShin]

I've worked out Greg's master plan. He wants us to give Emile an extension so as he can play in the reserves next season. Then we'll be a big club again, look out Norwich! 

[Toronto Villa]

Its not like we are playing 4 or 5 accademy players and getting stuffed 10 nil, most times they are holding thier own, not world beaters but hardly walkovers either.

Someone like Lambert's got that already though. decent players no worldbeaters, no money. no expectations  Still no-one has told me why he'd jump ship for the same thing but here he's expected to do much much better..

Its called ambition, based on your view of the world we would all be swimming around in some a Darwin sludge pool

eh? whats ambitious about moving to a club with no better chance of success?

Blimey Greg, is everything short term with you? We might not be better off than them right at this moment in time, but we are a bigger club than them, have better resources and will be better positioned in time to consistently have an opportunity to achieve more than them. We've been through dark periods in our history before and have bounced back. Those teams, for the most part have spent their entire existence in the lower divisions because its as far as they tend to go.

[eamonn]

Bolton 39 pts
Villa 36
QPR 35
Wigan 34
Blackburn 33
Wolves 23
We will draw against Stoke, Bolton and Norwich.

I thought you were an optimist and a believer in McLeish?