AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[PeterWithesShin]

Well Lineker will be bitter that we denied his beloved Spurs a win plus the fact he was never good enough to score at Villa Park.

[TonyD]

Time for the BBC to get rid of Shearer after his comments. Clearly knows fuck all about why AM has pissed us off.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I just posted about the Shearer comment in the post-match thread. He really is a know nothing twat.

And the comment of our lovely Lee about Given: " the keeper had to make save after save".
He made TWO.
They didn't bother watching the game and like bad journos simply make up what they don't know.
TWATS!

They are not journos, they are ex players on the BBC gravy train, as you say TWATS

I said "like bad journos", not that they were journos. They are "experts".
Whatever the fuck that means!
Most of us on here could do a better job but we're not called Alan Shearer!

[Irish villain]

We need to get a few villa men onto the tv.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

We need to get a few villa men onto the tv.

Volunteers?

[Dr.Feelgood]

No one knows when or if Petrov will return.

i can't see Stan coming back. After what he's going through- and at his age (2 more yrs. max ?) i think he'll be more focussed on LIFE & Family, rather than football ... plus - not sure how it works, but - if he 'retires through ill health", my guess is the Insurance will have to cover loss of (potential) earnings. 

[Greg N'Ash]

hmmm. nice idea but we ain't shifting the likes of Dunne till their contracts run out. they won't get anything like what they're on here elsewhere. The only logical explantion for Mcleish being taken on in the first place, was his style of football could get the best out of the unsellables. It hasn't worked but i don't fancy the next guy's chances much either

Don't Dunne, Collins and Warnock only have one year left on their contracts.  In their position, what would you prefer one more year on £50k and then uncertainty and dropping down to £35k on a short contract or moving on for £40k and a 3 year contract and perhaps a pay off of £1m from Villa.

With Cuellar going and Heskey out of contract and possibly two of the above going, that would be a massive wages pot to use to rebuild the squad for a new manager.

heh. who that would want Dunne would pay him 40k a week? The clubs who would look at him would be pushing the boat out at 30k, so straight away thats 20k a week he's lost on his last year with us - a cool million. I'd stay put if i was him.

That's why I said ... and perhaps a pay off of £1m from the Villa.

so say a bolton or a fulham agree to buy him and we pay him off with a million, how much are we selling him for? and seeing we have to buy a replacement in what way has it saved us any money? he's 32 and has been shit for 2 years.  million? one and a half?

[Dr.Feelgood]

We need to get a few villa men onto the tv.

Volunteers?

  MON ?      but he'd be out of the Studio half way through the programme....

[Steve67]

"I expect to be here next season". Does anyone else find that an odd thing to say?  If he been truly back by Randy Lerner it wouldn't be an issue to discuss with any interested reporter.

Jeez, 7 wins in 37 games.  4 wins at home all season, 3 away.  Bolton, in the bottom three and highly likely to go down, have won 10 games. Is it 37 goals in as many games? Only Stoke have scored less.  Terrible, vile, horrible record.  No Manager should survive that sort of record. Crowds dropping to an average gate of 33,000, is that the lowest this century? Unless Randy and Fauilkner are complete and utter idiots, we'll get rid of this Manager quickly and efficiently.

[Dr.Feelgood]

"I expect to be here next season". Does anyone else find that an odd thing to say?  If he been truly back by Randy Lerner it wouldn't be an issue to discuss with any interested reporter.

Jeez, 7 wins in 37 games.  4 wins at home all season, 3 away.  Bolton, in the bottom three and highly likely to go down, have won 10 games. Is it 37 goals in as many games? Terrible, vile, horrible record.  No Manager should survuve that sort of record. Crowds dropping to an average gate of 33,000, is that the lowest this century?

If he IS here next Season, there'll be a few (more) thousand who won't be... the Club MUST realise that.
He's history

[old man villa fan]

hmmm. nice idea but we ain't shifting the likes of Dunne till their contracts run out. they won't get anything like what they're on here elsewhere. The only logical explantion for Mcleish being taken on in the first place, was his style of football could get the best out of the unsellables. It hasn't worked but i don't fancy the next guy's chances much either

Don't Dunne, Collins and Warnock only have one year left on their contracts.  In their position, what would you prefer one more year on £50k and then uncertainty and dropping down to £35k on a short contract or moving on for £40k and a 3 year contract and perhaps a pay off of £1m from Villa.

With Cuellar going and Heskey out of contract and possibly two of the above going, that would be a massive wages pot to use to rebuild the squad for a new manager.

heh. who that would want Dunne would pay him 40k a week? The clubs who would look at him would be pushing the boat out at 30k, so straight away thats 20k a week he's lost on his last year with us - a cool million. I'd stay put if i was him.

That's why I said ... and perhaps a pay off of £1m from the Villa.

so say a bolton or a fulham agree to buy him and we pay him off with a million, how much are we selling him for? and seeing we have to buy a replacement in what way has it saved us any money? he's 32 and has been shit for 2 years.  million? one and a half?

The quicker these players are out of here, the sooner we can rebuild.  If we can sell, say, Dunne for £1.5m and pay him off £1m, we have £0.5m towards a new player and possibly £0.5m a season saved in wages and hopefully a better player.

[Greg N'Ash]

hmmm. nice idea but we ain't shifting the likes of Dunne till their contracts run out. they won't get anything like what they're on here elsewhere. The only logical explantion for Mcleish being taken on in the first place, was his style of football could get the best out of the unsellables. It hasn't worked but i don't fancy the next guy's chances much either

Don't Dunne, Collins and Warnock only have one year left on their contracts.  In their position, what would you prefer one more year on £50k and then uncertainty and dropping down to £35k on a short contract or moving on for £40k and a 3 year contract and perhaps a pay off of £1m from Villa.

With Cuellar going and Heskey out of contract and possibly two of the above going, that would be a massive wages pot to use to rebuild the squad for a new manager.

heh. who that would want Dunne would pay him 40k a week? The clubs who would look at him would be pushing the boat out at 30k, so straight away thats 20k a week he's lost on his last year with us - a cool million. I'd stay put if i was him.

That's why I said ... and perhaps a pay off of £1m from the Villa.

so say a bolton or a fulham agree to buy him and we pay him off with a million, how much are we selling him for? and seeing we have to buy a replacement in what way has it saved us any money? he's 32 and has been shit for 2 years.  million? one and a half?

The quicker these players are out of here, the sooner we can rebuild.  If we can sell, say, Dunne for £1.5m and pay him off £1m, we have £0.5m towards a new player and possibly £0.5m a season saved in wages and hopefully a better player.

I agree but makes you wonder if these deals are possible why haven't we done them before? We basically stuck a For Sale sign on Cuellar, a far better player and yet we had no takers, not to mention the MFH's, NRC's ,Sidwell's, Beye's etc.., Maybe they'd rather get them free in a year or for peanuts at christmas?

[Dribbler]

I was just thinking, as so many other managers and 'pundits' seem to think that McLeish has done such an amazing job considering everything he's had to contend with over the last season, that maybe a club might come in for him and pay us compensation to take him off of our hands?

Condisering what a brilliant job he has done in steering us to safety no doubt clubs will be queueing around the block to solicit him. 

[Steve67]

I was just thinking, as so many other managers and 'pundits' seem to think that McLeish has done such an amazing job considering everything he's had to contend with over the last season, that maybe a club might come in for him and pay us compensation to take him off of our hands?

Condisering what a brilliant job he has done in steering us to safety no doubt clubs will be queueing around the block to solicit him. 

Absolutely right, given that he's got the players to punch above their weight and grab so many draws from winning positions.  He's not a negative Manager at all though you know?

22 points Vill have lost from winning positions. Useless wanker.

[caster troy]

I think this is only the halfway point in the 'McLeish at Villa' story, things are going to get a lot worse before he finally departs. Lerner and Faulkner are living in a different dimension where they think he's a nice bloke doing his best and 'the fans' don't know what's good for them. They are so naive that they think if we start next season with two wins then 5000 fans will come flooding back to Villa Park and all it will take is a couple of signings and a free transfer or two to make it happen.

If he's in any doubt, Lerner will ask Fergie for advice and get another letter advising us to stick with McLeish for the long haul. The nightmare continues...