AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[Rigadon]

The MOTD pundits reaffirming that the reason it wont work is because we 'hate' him because of the Blues connection. 

It hasn't got my goat until now.  Fuck right off you patronising wankers and look at the league table, the amount of dross our team has produced and then re-evaluate your opinion. 

Maybe I"ll write an open letter to the BBC. 

Or just go to bed. 

[Dr.Feelgood]

MoTD just now :  "so much hatred against McLeish because of Blues" [q. A. Shearer]

Not quite, Alan ... so much hatred because he's incompetent, blames everyone / everything else for HIS crap football

[old man villa fan]

I wouldn't be surprised to see the media turn on McLeish, they sense blood and sackings/new managers make news.

I have just listened to Perry Groves on Footbal First and he first reeled off the stat of lowest number of home wins in a season and then went on to McLeish's record with Blues and us of only a goal a game, saying that is not good enough for a team like Villa.

I do not believe for a second that Groves knew these facts before and was clearly primed by Sky.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

If all I was paid to do was talk about football I'd like to think I'd have a bit more of a clue than these idiotic 'pundits'.

Presumably Shearer missed the 'worst home season EVER' stat?!

[PeterWithesShin]

I just posted about the Shearer comment in the post-match thread. He really is a know nothing twat.

[Dr.Feelgood]

If all I was paid to do was talk about football I'd like to think I'd have a bit more of a clue than these idiotic 'pundits'.

Presumably Shearer missed the 'worst home season EVER' stat?!

Perhaps Shearer just qualified as the Worst Pundit of the Season. Another clueless twat.

[AV82EC]

Well, if we end with him next season it's almost a case of getting up with what we deserve.
Today we had the chance to show the club how we feel about the manager, but other than a few half arsed chants at full time, most people sighed, shrugged and then left the ground.
If you can't be bothered to stay,stand up and let your feelings be known then dont moan next year when the twat is still here.
Apathy rules ok !!!!

Not renewing my season ticket until he's gone will be a rather more solid reminder to the board than standing up and shouting a few chants at the end of the match.

I'm certainly having a go at you, but, are you saying that you would prefer to stop doing something that is probably in your blood rather than stand up and shout that you don't agree with the way the club is being led and you want to see change ?

We all have our own ways to deal with these things.  I've done this before, I walked out in 1998, my protest against Ellis, and didn't return to Villa Park for 6 years, when for the next 3 seasons it got even worse!!!  The only thing these people understand is money, withdraw it, its the only way.

[FatSam]

What is the point of getting Shearer to comment on McLeish's situation? He obviously doesn't have any kind of insight into how or why Villa supporters feel about McLeish, whether there is any consensus etc. In fact he doesn't have a fucking clue. It's a different situation to that of Bruce at Sunderland. McLeish is Scottish FFS, and isn't a BCFC supporter. He just happens to be a very limited football manager. No mention of it being our worst home record ever for example.

[TheSandman]

Even Savage seems to have worked it out now. Though Savage has actually bothered to watch us as part of his punditry duties.

[Greg N'Ash]

How do people know that McLeish is staying? He's hardly going say in an interview that he's a dead man walking, when he's got hefty compensation coming. I predict a sacking, a week today.

well the main thing suggesting he's staying is he's bought a player for next season. Putting side wanting him out, it seems a bit mad to let him sign someone a new guy may not want. We've signed enough of them already over the last few years, and its contributed both to the debts and the decline of the team

So are you saying that if he stays and buys 5 or 6 players in the summer, he should not be sacked after 10 matches if we are bottom of the table just because another manager may not want those players.

of course not but it would mean someone with similar ideas would have to come in. We had Martin 'o Hoof, then we veered to the other end of the football philosophy spectrum with Houllier and straight away half the team were not his sort of players and we struggled, then we veered back the other way to Mcleish and the more skillfull players have suffered or been dumped/sold. I'm struggling to work out how another possesion and passing minded manager is gonna make more of the likes of Dunne, collins, hutton and warnock than houllier did.

There seems no sensible reason to keep him as manager then.  Get rid now and bring in a new manager who starts with a clean slate and can move on the players that are out of contract or who are in their last year.  This may be the last year when an older player can move on and get a decent contract at another club.  I can see players' wages dropping by 20-25% within the next 2 years for other than the real top players.

hmmm. nice idea but we ain't shifting the likes of Dunne till their contracts run out. they won't get anything like what they're on here elsewhere. The only logical explantion for Mcleish being taken on in the first place, was his style of football could get the best out of the unsellables. It hasn't worked but i don't fancy the next guy's chances much either

[phantom limb]

To be fair Shearer does have form for not watching games, not knowing who foreign players are and generally not knowing what's going on. I still had to stop myself from pushing my fingers into my eyes when he proclaimed that all Villa fans don't like Alex McLeish because he came from Birmingham City. How about because of four wins at home for a start, you massive bald bellend?

[VILLA MOLE]

we should ban these pundits  from our games until they fucking show some proper knowledge of our clubs situation before taliking about us . superficial tossers

[Irish villain]

'Grant issuing orders that clearly confuse the players.' Is that the case Dr. Feelgood? Has anybody else picked up on that? That's really bad at this level.

[old man villa fan]

hmmm. nice idea but we ain't shifting the likes of Dunne till their contracts run out. they won't get anything like what they're on here elsewhere. The only logical explantion for Mcleish being taken on in the first place, was his style of football could get the best out of the unsellables. It hasn't worked but i don't fancy the next guy's chances much either

Don't Dunne, Collins and Warnock only have one year left on their contracts.  In their position, what would you prefer one more year on £50k and then uncertainty and dropping down to £35k on a short contract or moving on for £40k and a 3 year contract and perhaps a pay off of £1m from Villa.

With Cuellar going and Heskey out of contract and possibly two of the above going, that would be a massive wages pot to use to rebuild the squad for a new manager.

[The Left Side]

I thought I lip-read AM saying to Grant (whilst sat down and Grant was stood up) that he had told the f@#king players that order and they don't listen, I wasn't shocked.