AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[James]

I agree with you guys, but I believe that DCF has met the man recently and I'm interested in 'why' he is prepared to give him more time and what he believes that the outcome of doing so would be.

[claret and blue blood]

I think he should be given time to...................................pack his bags and clear off !

[Sexual Ealing]

I'd probably go with a dry sense of humour if I was pocketing the best part of £2m per year from an organisation I was helping to run into the ground.

I think that running around in circles, naked, banging a biscuit tin lid on my head while listening to Agadoo at full-blast and screaming "I can't believe they're still letting me do this! Hahahahahaha! How the hell am I getting away with this?!" would feel a little ungracious. Yep, stick to the understated drollery, Eck.

[Clampy]

I agree with you guys, but I believe that DCF has met the man recently and I'm interested in 'why' he is prepared to give him more time and what he believes that the outcome of doing so would be.

Dave did indeed meet him recently at the awards dinner i believe, then came on here the following morning telling us all that he'd spoken to him and was now looking forward to the game on Sunday. It was all a bit cryptic and maybe written in an attempt to get people asking what was said, what do you know blah blah blah.

To an extent it worked but it was all a bit pointless and the kind of thing you'd read on Twitter.

[Risso]

Re your previous post Dave, I would go back if we appointed someone like Martinez for sure. It would be interesting to see if he could get us playing decent football.

As for McLeish, he was shit scarred of popping his head out. If he wasn't, he would not have made up the frankly lamest excuse in the history of shit excuses.

Haven't you noticed that McLeish has a very dry sense of humour? It is obvious to me why he stayed where he was. If the vile chants had started then we may as well have thrown the towel in there and then. I think he acted in the best interests of the club.

Regarding going back, I didn't know you had stayed away so the point was not aimed at you. There are plenty who have said that they will never go back while AMcL is there. I strongly suspect that SOME (apologies for the warleywonder capitals) of these are spouting crap. They have no intention of coming to our games at all and hide behind any fashionable excuse. It is like looking at some of the stuff on the Villa Facebook site etc. There are people on there who just copy what the majority are saying. I bet I could pick a few of them out, stand them in front of the Villa team and say to them 'tell me who is who' with little chance of a correct reply.

True, but then I reckon most on this site if they say would go back would. McLeish was the final nail for me in not renewing, and I spent an hour, much to my wife's bemusement last July explaining to a poor fella on the phone from the ticket office my exact reasons for not renewing. Finances are tight, 3rd child born through this season, and I could not justify going to Villa Park already safe in the knowledge of how we were going to play was simply going to anger and depress me with each visit.

As for your assertion of a dry sense of humour, I don't think you are right with it. If he is half as bright as you seem to think at the moment, he would not have said it was a chore to come to the sideline. It makes out that for 1.6 million a year he can't be arsed to get off his chair. It was a poorly thought through flimsy excuse to not get the stick he knew he would get from the fans.

Did he do it for the sake of the team? Possible, but then why not admit it? And more so, if you know that your presence is going to have a negative effect on the side due to quite justified fan reaction to you, then you know it is time to walk away. If he had any decency he would have done following the Bolton game. Our worst  home record in history, and lowest points total since the premier league was created etc... Not sure how he can be defended at all I am afraid.

Thank you for your reasoned response. I'm prepared to give him more time.

Must have been a good night the other night.

[Fergal]

Re your previous post Dave, I would go back if we appointed someone like Martinez for sure. It would be interesting to see if he could get us playing decent football.

As for McLeish, he was shit scarred of popping his head out. If he wasn't, he would not have made up the frankly lamest excuse in the history of shit excuses.

Haven't you noticed that McLeish has a very dry sense of humour? It is obvious to me why he stayed where he was. If the vile chants had started then we may as well have thrown the towel in there and then. I think he acted in the best interests of the club.

Regarding going back, I didn't know you had stayed away so the point was not aimed at you. There are plenty who have said that they will never go back while AMcL is there. I strongly suspect that SOME (apologies for the warleywonder capitals) of these are spouting crap. They have no intention of coming to our games at all and hide behind any fashionable excuse. It is like looking at some of the stuff on the Villa Facebook site etc. There are people on there who just copy what the majority are saying. I bet I could pick a few of them out, stand them in front of the Villa team and say to them 'tell me who is who' with little chance of a correct reply.

True, but then I reckon most on this site if they say would go back would. McLeish was the final nail for me in not renewing, and I spent an hour, much to my wife's bemusement last July explaining to a poor fella on the phone from the ticket office my exact reasons for not renewing. Finances are tight, 3rd child born through this season, and I could not justify going to Villa Park already safe in the knowledge of how we were going to play was simply going to anger and depress me with each visit.

As for your assertion of a dry sense of humour, I don't think you are right with it. If he is half as bright as you seem to think at the moment, he would not have said it was a chore to come to the sideline. It makes out that for 1.6 million a year he can't be arsed to get off his chair. It was a poorly thought through flimsy excuse to not get the stick he knew he would get from the fans.

Did he do it for the sake of the team? Possible, but then why not admit it? And more so, if you know that your presence is going to have a negative effect on the side due to quite justified fan reaction to you, then you know it is time to walk away. If he had any decency he would have done following the Bolton game. Our worst  home record in history, and lowest points total since the premier league was created etc... Not sure how he can be defended at all I am afraid.

Thank you for your reasoned response. I'm prepared to give him more time.

How much more and what would you want to see improve and what would make you want him removed from his post?

[cdward]

I'm also prepared to give him more time.




Ok time up, McLeish out!

[saunders_heroes]

Re your previous post Dave, I would go back if we appointed someone like Martinez for sure. It would be interesting to see if he could get us playing decent football.

As for McLeish, he was shit scarred of popping his head out. If he wasn't, he would not have made up the frankly lamest excuse in the history of shit excuses.

Haven't you noticed that McLeish has a very dry sense of humour? It is obvious to me why he stayed where he was. If the vile chants had started then we may as well have thrown the towel in there and then. I think he acted in the best interests of the club.

Regarding going back, I didn't know you had stayed away so the point was not aimed at you. There are plenty who have said that they will never go back while AMcL is there. I strongly suspect that SOME (apologies for the warleywonder capitals) of these are spouting crap. They have no intention of coming to our games at all and hide behind any fashionable excuse. It is like looking at some of the stuff on the Villa Facebook site etc. There are people on there who just copy what the majority are saying. I bet I could pick a few of them out, stand them in front of the Villa team and say to them 'tell me who is who' with little chance of a correct reply.

True, but then I reckon most on this site if they say would go back would. McLeish was the final nail for me in not renewing, and I spent an hour, much to my wife's bemusement last July explaining to a poor fella on the phone from the ticket office my exact reasons for not renewing. Finances are tight, 3rd child born through this season, and I could not justify going to Villa Park already safe in the knowledge of how we were going to play was simply going to anger and depress me with each visit.

As for your assertion of a dry sense of humour, I don't think you are right with it. If he is half as bright as you seem to think at the moment, he would not have said it was a chore to come to the sideline. It makes out that for 1.6 million a year he can't be arsed to get off his chair. It was a poorly thought through flimsy excuse to not get the stick he knew he would get from the fans.

Did he do it for the sake of the team? Possible, but then why not admit it? And more so, if you know that your presence is going to have a negative effect on the side due to quite justified fan reaction to you, then you know it is time to walk away. If he had any decency he would have done following the Bolton game. Our worst  home record in history, and lowest points total since the premier league was created etc... Not sure how he can be defended at all I am afraid.

Thank you for your reasoned response. I'm prepared to give him more time.

Must have been a good night the other night.

That's what I was thinking. Give him more time and eventually he'll relegate us. Get him out as soon as we're safe. He's been an absolute disaster.

[Mister E]

DCF: I respect your judgement but, for me, the stats make such horrible reading that I can't countenance another season like this one.

And, like Ozzjim but for different reasons, I too forsook a ST this season. I would return to B6 next season  for a new manager.

[PaulWinch again]

The thing is and it's clear from my posts of late that I want Mcleish gone as soon as possible and think it should have been done some weeks ago. However initially I wanted to give him a chance, and defended him earlier in the season. The reality is though we have got progressively worse in terms of style and results, with nothing to suggest he would ever turn it around. He simply has done a dreadful job, and were it at any other club he would have been sacked a couple of months ago I expect(possibly with the exception of Blackburn).

[saunders_heroes]

What did McLeish actually say to DCF?

[Californian Villain]

What did McLeish actually say to DCF?

bought him a pint.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I think, considering what happened at the end of the Bolton game and what was threatened, by all and sundry, for the Albion game, that he was best keeping a low profile. He did not want a bad atmosphere to upset the team's performance and that was absolutely critical considering our position.

What a guy!

Let's keep him.

[PeterWithe]

I keep saying I'll not go again whilst McLeish is there and then go hoping its all going to change, then finish the game shouting for him to go.

[bertlambshank]

If Grant is here next season I will be fucked off.