AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[villajk]

One of our main problems is that we dont have a Chief Executive that acts swiftly or decisively. He is a quiet man behind the scenes unlike Levy of Tottenham for example. To me Faulkner looks out of his depth, neither vocal nor approachable.
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Whatever anybody thinks of Paul Faulkner the one thing that he is,is approachable.

[Monty]

One of our main problems is that we dont have a Chief Executive that acts swiftly or decisively. He is a quiet man behind the scenes unlike Levy of Tottenham for example. To me Faulkner looks out of his depth, neither vocal nor approachable.
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Whatever anybody thinks of Paul Faulkner the one thing that he is,is approachable.

And if there's one thing that Levy is, it's unapproachable.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I would have loved McLeish to have been sucessful. Because I love Aston Villa.

Exactly right.
With the added bonus of making the Dogshitters green with envy that we poached their Manager who then did wonders with us.

[VillaAlways]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

Again WW,you are talking like he was our number one candidate who we all thrilled to have and you somehow had this great insight into the situation.We had no choice but to give him a chance.It's called supporting the club.

Yes I know all about supporting the club like many other fans but you didnt need a bang on the head to realise it wasnt going to work  - hello !!!!!

How disappointed would you have been if it had worked ?

It was never going to work I cannot believe any fan honestly thought that it would. His track record speaks volumes. How can a manager come third in the scottish premier when there are only two decent teams.

You haven't answered my question

I have answered your question "zoggyalways" it was NEVER going to work I strongly believed it then and I cannot see anything has changed now can you?

You would have been disappointed ,wouldn't you ?

Not at all zoggyalways but can you not see what I said then has actually come true, it was so obvious unless you are someone that really really wished he was going to be a saviour .

So you are saying you never wanted him to be successful then.Thankyou,you've finally answered my question

I do believe that I have never ever ever said I didnt want him to be. Where did I say that? Proof please ? Otherwise you may be barred !!!!

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

Again WW,you are talking like he was our number one candidate who we all thrilled to have and you somehow had this great insight into the situation.We had no choice but to give him a chance.It's called supporting the club.

Yes I know all about supporting the club like many other fans but you didnt need a bang on the head to realise it wasnt going to work  - hello !!!!!

How disappointed would you have been if it had worked ?

It was never going to work I cannot believe any fan honestly thought that it would. His track record speaks volumes. How can a manager come third in the scottish premier when there are only two decent teams.

You haven't answered my question

I have answered your question "zoggyalways" it was NEVER going to work I strongly believed it then and I cannot see anything has changed now can you?

You would have been disappointed ,wouldn't you ?

Not at all zoggyalways but can you not see what I said then has actually come true, it was so obvious unless you are someone that really really wished he was going to be a saviour .

So you are saying you never wanted him to be successful then.Thankyou,you've finally answered my question

I do believe that I have never ever ever said I didnt want him to be. Where did I say that? Proof please ? Otherwise you may be barred !!!!

"it was so obvious unless you are someone that really really wished he was going to be a saviour . "

That's what I was wishing because if he's successful,the Villa are successful Clearly you weren't

[Rick_avfc]

Any chance you two could take your debate elsewhere as you are filling up the screen / tpoic of your whole conversation thus creating loads more pages.

[PaulWinch again]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

Again WW,you are talking like he was our number one candidate who we all thrilled to have and you somehow had this great insight into the situation.We had no choice but to give him a chance.It's called supporting the club.

That's exactly the point. Many people were unhappy he was appointed, but once he was appointed he became the Villa manager. Therefore he deserved to be given the chance of a fresh start ignoring his poor record in the past. Most fans afforded him that chance and unfortunately he wasn't up to the task. He needs to go, but that doesn't change the fact we needed to give him a chance initially.

Poor record is a very big understatement.

It doesn't matter though, once he was appointed we needed to give him a chance and most have.

[VillaAlways]

Any chance you two could take your debate elsewhere as you are filling up the screen / tpoic of your whole conversation thus creating loads more pages.

Where would you suggest I take a debate regarding Alex Mcleish on an Alex Mcleish thread

[not3bad]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

What Warley Wondrous fails to understand is it is because we were patient and gave Mcleish a chance that we can now be justifiably angry with people who still think we are only giving him stick because he came from the Blues.  If we had kicked off when he suggested (i.e. as soon as Mcleish came though the door) then those people who are saying we were giving Mcleish stick for such a shallow reason would have been proven right and we look like right morons.

[PeterWithesShin]

Any chance you two could take your debate elsewhere as you are filling up the screen / tpoic of your whole conversation thus creating loads more pages.

Where would you suggest I take a debate regarding Alex Mcleish on an Alex Mcleish thread

By all means have a debate with each other as long as it stays civil, but please can you both cut down on the mass quoting.

[Rick_avfc]

Any chance you two could take your debate elsewhere as you are filling up the screen / tpoic of your whole conversation thus creating loads more pages.

Where would you suggest I take a debate regarding Alex Mcleish on an Alex Mcleish thread

By all means have a debate with each other as long as it stays civil, but please can you both cut down on the mass quoting.

This.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Any chance you two could take your debate elsewhere as you are filling up the screen / tpoic of your whole conversation thus creating loads more pages.

Where would you suggest I take a debate regarding Alex Mcleish on an Alex Mcleish thread

By all means have a debate with each other as long as it stays civil, but please can you both cut down on the mass quoting.

There's always a lot of mass debating when it comes to Warley Wonder.

[VillaAlways]

Apologies

[Concrete John]

Nobody 'wanted' him.  But once he got the job, what do you do?

Option 1 is to support him and the club and hope it works out.

Option 2 is to bitch from the outset, mainly to the detriment of the club as a whole, and then languish in the glory of being proven right.

What gets me about the 'I told you so' crowd is their love for the club is so great, they feel their time is best spent reminding us all how they saw it all coming as opposed to offering siggestions for a new manager, discussing how we can get the necessary points from the remaining games or debating the larger and longterm future of the club.  Having said that, if they did I could imagine it being "Anyone but McFuckStain", "Minus 3 unless we sack McCuntyBollocks" and "We don't have one unless McWankPants is sacked, sued and then we bring a criminal prosecution." 

[Risso]

Nobody 'wanted' him.  But once he got the job, what do you do?

Option 1 is to support him and the club and hope it works out.

Option 2 is to bitch from the outset, mainly to the detriment of the club as a whole, and then languish in the glory of being proven right.

What gets me about the 'I told you so' crowd is their love for the club is so great, they feel their time is best spent reminding us all how they saw it all coming as opposed to offering siggestions for a new manager, discussing how we can get the necessary points from the remaining games or debating the larger and longterm future of the club.  Having said that, if they did I could imagine it being "Anyone but McFuckStain", "Minus 3 unless we sack McCuntyBollocks" and "We don't have one unless McWankPants is sacked, sued and then we bring a criminal prosecution." 

No true Villa fan enjoys being right about McLeish.  However, nobody enjoys spending their hard-earned cash and time watching the shite that McLeish has served up, so expecting them not to say that Lerner got it massively wrong is a bit much.

If only Lerner, when presented with his two options in the summer of

Option 1 - Appoint McLeish

Option 2 - Don't appoint McLeish

had not had a massive brain meltdown and made just about THE most stupid decision in recent footballing history.  The huge cretin.

[Stu]

Stuart James and Neil Moxley get the true word on what's going on at the Villa from a certain fanzine seller who works opposite the church.

You're welcome.

Good work. Did you read Stuart James' article in the Graun? It was right on the money. Finally.