AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[VillaAlways]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

Again WW,you are talking like he was our number one candidate who we all thrilled to have and you somehow had this great insight into the situation.We had no choice but to give him a chance.It's called supporting the club.

Yes I know all about supporting the club like many other fans but you didnt need a bang on the head to realise it wasnt going to work  - hello !!!!!

How disappointed would you have been if it had worked ?

It was never going to work I cannot believe any fan honestly thought that it would. His track record speaks volumes. How can a manager come third in the scottish premier when there are only two decent teams.

You haven't answered my question

[WarleyWonder]

Quote from the web
"Rangers' worsening financial state saw many of his top players leave in the summer of 2003. Celtic won the league comfortably in season 2003–04, and Rangers failed to win any trophies.[14] McLeish was consequently put under pressure from fans after his poor signings and a record run of seven consecutive derby losses to Celtic.["

Hmmmmmmm and some fans say we are talking b**locks???

[VillaAlways]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

Nobody wanted him in the job. When he was appointed, most of us got behind him for the good of the club. Most of us wanted him to do well. Most of us thought it was a bit early to be giving him stick and sacking him in November, as it wasn't a fair amount of time to judge him. And finally, most of us could not give a shit where he came from.

If we had of sacked him in November maybe we would have been mid table or higher now?

We were 8th in November

[Dave Clark Five]

Warley Wonder, Dazzy G, whatever you want to call yourself, you were talking bollocks. You didn't want him because of where he came from. That's very different to not wanting to watch his soul destroying football.

The point I was making was about his style of play and not wanting him all those months ago I guess you were one of the fans saying i was talking s**t now I guess you too want him out? Or do you still think we are being harsh calling him a useless twat?

You were barred from the site and only let back on for the entertainment value, I heard.

Thats correct I was barred for saying he was useless now look at the situation we are in. Was I really wrong in my opinion?

You have certainly mellowed since those days.

[WarleyWonder]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

Again WW,you are talking like he was our number one candidate who we all thrilled to have and you somehow had this great insight into the situation.We had no choice but to give him a chance.It's called supporting the club.

Yes I know all about supporting the club like many other fans but you didnt need a bang on the head to realise it wasnt going to work  - hello !!!!!

How disappointed would you have been if it had worked ?

It was never going to work I cannot believe any fan honestly thought that it would. His track record speaks volumes. How can a manager come third in the scottish premier when there are only two decent teams.

You haven't answered my question

I have answered your question "zoggyalways" it was NEVER going to work I strongly believed it then and I cannot see anything has changed now can you?

[VillaAlways]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

Again WW,you are talking like he was our number one candidate who we all thrilled to have and you somehow had this great insight into the situation.We had no choice but to give him a chance.It's called supporting the club.

Yes I know all about supporting the club like many other fans but you didnt need a bang on the head to realise it wasnt going to work  - hello !!!!!

How disappointed would you have been if it had worked ?

It was never going to work I cannot believe any fan honestly thought that it would. His track record speaks volumes. How can a manager come third in the scottish premier when there are only two decent teams.

You haven't answered my question

I have answered your question "zoggyalways" it was NEVER going to work I strongly believed it then and I cannot see anything has changed now can you?

You would have been disappointed ,wouldn't you ?

[WarleyWonder]

Warley Wonder, Dazzy G, whatever you want to call yourself, you were talking bollocks. You didn't want him because of where he came from. That's very different to not wanting to watch his soul destroying football.

The point I was making was about his style of play and not wanting him all those months ago I guess you were one of the fans saying i was talking s**t now I guess you too want him out? Or do you still think we are being harsh calling him a useless twat?

You were barred from the site and only let back on for the entertainment value, I heard.

Thats correct I was barred for saying he was useless now look at the situation we are in. Was I really wrong in my opinion?

You have certainly mellowed since those days.

Ahhhhhhh those were the days when I was feeling irate and p**ssed off at AM now I sit back and think if only other fans had realised then what they know now.

[N'ZMAV]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

I didn't think it would work, but I was prepared to give him a chance and see through the faults, maybe I'm naive with my optamism?...

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Warley Wonder, Dazzy G, whatever you want to call yourself, you were talking bollocks. You didn't want him because of where he came from. That's very different to not wanting to watch his soul destroying football.

The point I was making was about his style of play and not wanting him all those months ago I guess you were one of the fans saying i was talking s**t now I guess you too want him out? Or do you still think we are being harsh calling him a useless twat?

You were barred from the site and only let back on for the entertainment value, I heard.

Thats correct I was barred for saying he was useless now look at the situation we are in. Was I really wrong in my opinion?

You have certainly mellowed since those days.

Ahhhhhhh those were the days when I was feeling irate and p**ssed off at AM now I sit back and think if only other fans had realised then what they know now.

When will you start calling for the next manager's head, Borely Wonder?

[WarleyWonder]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

Again WW,you are talking like he was our number one candidate who we all thrilled to have and you somehow had this great insight into the situation.We had no choice but to give him a chance.It's called supporting the club.

Yes I know all about supporting the club like many other fans but you didnt need a bang on the head to realise it wasnt going to work  - hello !!!!!

How disappointed would you have been if it had worked ?

It was never going to work I cannot believe any fan honestly thought that it would. His track record speaks volumes. How can a manager come third in the scottish premier when there are only two decent teams.

You haven't answered my question

I have answered your question "zoggyalways" it was NEVER going to work I strongly believed it then and I cannot see anything has changed now can you?

You would have been disappointed ,wouldn't you ?

Not at all zoggyalways but can you not see what I said then has actually come true, it was so obvious unless you are someone that really really wished he was going to be a saviour I'm afraid to say that he never was.

Are you a relative of his? Go on be honest or are you his next door neighbour? or are you really Alex in disguise? Go on tell the truth

[WarleyWonder]

Warley Wonder, Dazzy G, whatever you want to call yourself, you were talking bollocks. You didn't want him because of where he came from. That's very different to not wanting to watch his soul destroying football.

The point I was making was about his style of play and not wanting him all those months ago I guess you were one of the fans saying i was talking s**t now I guess you too want him out? Or do you still think we are being harsh calling him a useless twat?

You were barred from the site and only let back on for the entertainment value, I heard.

Thats correct I was barred for saying he was useless now look at the situation we are in. Was I really wrong in my opinion?

You have certainly mellowed since those days.

Ahhhhhhh those were the days when I was feeling irate and p**ssed off at AM now I sit back and think if only other fans had realised then what they know now.

When will you start calling for the next manager's head, Borely Wonder?

Aha I wondered when you would poke your head out of the sand ! I doubt I will ever call for the head of a manager again as NO ONE can ever be as bad as the current manager and if we look at his record at home so far there has never been anyone like him (official)

[Monty]

Can't really be f'eck'ed (geddit!??!?) to look back through the thread, but Stuart James at the Guardian (good record on inside info - first to get the Barry, Milner, Young, Downing and MON discontent stories, among others) is reporting it as McLeish's days looking numbered irrespective of relegation - quite the reverse of the prevailing opinion that he will stay irrespective of relegation. His 'info' does seem a bit based on the statement released by the club, but who knows, he doesn't tend to report frivolously, so there is hope.

[VillaAlways]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

Again WW,you are talking like he was our number one candidate who we all thrilled to have and you somehow had this great insight into the situation.We had no choice but to give him a chance.It's called supporting the club.

Yes I know all about supporting the club like many other fans but you didnt need a bang on the head to realise it wasnt going to work  - hello !!!!!

How disappointed would you have been if it had worked ?

It was never going to work I cannot believe any fan honestly thought that it would. His track record speaks volumes. How can a manager come third in the scottish premier when there are only two decent teams.

You haven't answered my question

I have answered your question "zoggyalways" it was NEVER going to work I strongly believed it then and I cannot see anything has changed now can you?

You would have been disappointed ,wouldn't you ?

Not at all zoggyalways but can you not see what I said then has actually come true, it was so obvious unless you are someone that really really wished he was going to be a saviour .

So you are saying you never wanted him to be successful then.Thankyou,you've finally answered my question

[N'ZMAV]

I would have loved McLeish to have been sucessful. Because I love Aston Villa.

[WarleyWonder]

What is really p**sing me off is the amount of fans who not so long ago were having a pop at fans like me who didn't want him to to be given the job in the first place. It was obvious it wasnt going to work but no some fans thought we were talking b**locks and look where we are now.

Again WW,you are talking like he was our number one candidate who we all thrilled to have and you somehow had this great insight into the situation.We had no choice but to give him a chance.It's called supporting the club.

Yes I know all about supporting the club like many other fans but you didnt need a bang on the head to realise it wasnt going to work  - hello !!!!!

How disappointed would you have been if it had worked ?

It was never going to work I cannot believe any fan honestly thought that it would. His track record speaks volumes. How can a manager come third in the scottish premier when there are only two decent teams.

You haven't answered my question

I have answered your question "zoggyalways" it was NEVER going to work I strongly believed it then and I cannot see anything has changed now can you?

You would have been disappointed ,wouldn't you ?

Not at all zoggyalways but can you not see what I said then has actually come true, it was so obvious unless you are someone that really really wished he was going to be a saviour .

So you are saying you never wanted him to be successful then.Thankyou,you've finally answered my question

I do believe that I have never ever ever said I didnt want him to be. Where did I say that? Proof please ? Otherwise you may be barred !!!!