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Author Topic: AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.  (Read 1841830 times)

Offline itbrvilla

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1365 on: February 29, 2012, 02:15:30 PM »
All of that, obviously... but the logic behind it baffled me from day one. If I'd been granted an audience with Paul Faulkner, like that fans group had (and declined), that's what I'd be chatting about. Not in an aggressive way, just genuinely curious and confused.
'He shares the clubs vision'  will be all you'd get out of them.  A vision they seem to have no idea about themselves.
I have to agree it would be interesting to see what they would come up with as to why.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1366 on: February 29, 2012, 02:31:45 PM »
There's no chance of a resignation. He probably thought all his christmases came at once when he landed the Villa job. He'll be hanging on like a stubborn clagnut until pried from this battycrease of a season with a fat pay off all the way to Rangers.
Yet he had the bare faced cheek to say it's one of the hardest jobs in the Premier.

Offline ktvillan

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1367 on: February 29, 2012, 02:37:57 PM »
That's a great letter Mazrim, puts it all very well.  Perhaps we should all write similar to the club and they might get the message.  Love the use of the much under used "clagnut" later on as well althoguh never sure whether to spell it with a K or a C. 

Offline Holte L2

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1368 on: February 29, 2012, 04:54:20 PM »
I'm coming on here every hour praying for a miricale, and reading the headlines "Mcleish and Resignation"" I know it's not going to happen anytime soon but you can but dream.

I wouldnt take this decision likely but I'm even at the stage now, where I'd contemplate accepting a defeat at Blackburn in turn for his resignation. But I'm not even sure a defeat at Blackburn would change things?
I think if we then lost to Fulham at home.His position would be untenable surely??

You'd think so, christ knows what's going on inside Faulkner's head? 

Offline The Laughing Policeman

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1369 on: February 29, 2012, 05:15:36 PM »
Alex McLeish maybe  many things, but I can't see him being a quitter. And fair play to him for that.
With that in mind, I am beginning to wonder whether Randy and Faulkner would have the balls to sack him if the next two games go against us.
When I say go against us I mean getting one point from the two games, which on current form I can see happening.

Offline TheSandman

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1370 on: February 29, 2012, 05:17:19 PM »
But they won't. He's here to stay sadly.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1371 on: February 29, 2012, 05:17:46 PM »
Alex McLeish maybe  many things, but I can't see him being a quitter. And fair play to him for that.
With that in mind, I am beginning to wonder whether Randy and Faulkner would have the balls to sack him if the next two games go against us.
When I say go against us I mean getting one point from the two games, which on current form I can see happening.

Not having a go at AM about this, but really, the "not a quitter" thing doesn't really work with managers these days.

They hardly ever do quit, they just wait to get sacked, as otherwise they'd lose out financially. I totally understand why they do that, though, I just think that respect for someone who doesnt walk out of a £3m a year job and thus protects their pay off compensation is pretty much empty.

I don't blame them, though, I'd do the same.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1372 on: February 29, 2012, 05:25:42 PM »
But they won't. He's here to stay sadly.


Unfortunately, this.. and I hate it, like every other villa supporter. Terrible appointment and blind faith.

Offline supertom

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1373 on: February 29, 2012, 05:44:48 PM »
Yeah there's very little chance at this stage, that Randy will want to shit out more money to fire McLeish then hire Jose (what? I can dream can't I?). We spent so much on getting Martin out, Gerard out and then McLeish in. I think this is a situation where pig headedness will set in for Randy.

There may come that line crossing point when we're struggling, find ourselves in the drop zone but we don't have enough time left for any new man to have a fair shot at keeping us up. It happened at Newcastle with Shearer, even though he was also out of his depth anyhow.

If we're gonna sack McLeish then it's got to be in the next couple of games, or in the summer. Anything in between that (unless we're safe) is not a good idea. I think Randy will happily gamble on our 7 point cushion at this point. In 5 games time it might bite him in the arse, but I don't see him digging deep to make a change. That aside, who could take charge? We could get a temp to run the show, who knows his stuff, but there's the possibility of dinosauritus (Like GT 2). As for decent managers there's not really many available, nor even if we laid out the cash, any who'd switch jobs at this stage of a season.

It's painful.

Offline Matt C

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1374 on: February 29, 2012, 06:02:10 PM »
He's going nowhere. Keep calm and carry on.

Offline ez

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1375 on: February 29, 2012, 06:11:21 PM »
Alex McLeish maybe  many things, but I can't see him being a quitter. And fair play to him for that.
With that in mind, I am beginning to wonder whether Randy and Faulkner would have the balls to sack him if the next two games go against us.
When I say go against us I mean getting one point from the two games, which on current form I can see happening.

Not having a go at AM about this, but really, the "not a quitter" thing doesn't really work with managers these days.

They hardly ever do quit, they just wait to get sacked, as otherwise they'd lose out financially. I totally understand why they do that, though, I just think that respect for someone who doesnt walk out of a £3m a year job and thus protects their pay off compensation is pretty much empty.

I don't blame them, though, I'd do the same.

If he knows he's not up to the job then he's not got the clubs best interests at heart by not quitting, only his own.

Offline woody4866

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1376 on: February 29, 2012, 06:14:02 PM »
He's going nowhere. Keep calm and carry on.
C`mon - own up

your Paul Faulkner

Offline Dave Cooper please

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1377 on: February 29, 2012, 06:23:56 PM »
He's going nowhere. Keep calm and carry on.
C`mon - own up

your Paul Faulkner

His Paul Faulkner?

Offline Fergal

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1378 on: February 29, 2012, 07:04:25 PM »

Offline Holte L2

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1379 on: February 29, 2012, 07:51:29 PM »
I've just worked out, if all season ticket holders were to have a whip round and pay Mcleish's contract up, let's say his compensation is 3m, it would costs 150 each? I think? Can someone set up a justgiving account?

 


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