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Offline gervilla

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #990 on: February 25, 2012, 11:34:28 PM »
It's like he thinks you get three points for a scoreless draw.

Sorry, wrong thread. But that post match interview was terrible. He looks ragged. He must be under terrible personal strain. It's just a horrible situation for everybody concerned.

He looks like he fucked up big time and has no idea how to sort this horrible mess out.
We are doomed.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #991 on: February 25, 2012, 11:36:04 PM »
Still think its a case of careful what you wish for. November last year everyone was calling for GH's head and we got Mcleish. We're hardly a more attractive proposition now. We're a very poor side overall and giving the tin tack to another manager when we're 3 points off mid-table (which is as good as we are), may not have the desired effect when you consider we'll hardly be picking from the best candidates. Bottom line is you can't polish a turd (at least not MON's) and unless money is forthcoming the next guy will have the same problems unless he's a miracle worker

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #992 on: February 25, 2012, 11:39:52 PM »
When things were at there worse with Houllier at least he knew he could do the job because he had it on his CV, MCleish's CV looks like a  history of disaster,having said that i can sympathise with him, you wouldn't expect him to knock the job back. Blame for the situation we find ourselves in must be laid where it's due and that person is Faulkner because his history of running the day to day affairs of our great club looks like another history of disaster, but again i can sympathise with him, so who appointed him?

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #993 on: February 25, 2012, 11:49:55 PM »
Has anyone else noticed the facial expressions of McLeish and Peter Grant during our matches?

McLeish looks terrified and Grant just looks vacant.

Offline Tokyo Sexwhale

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #994 on: February 25, 2012, 11:56:02 PM »
I don't understand this argument that McLeish's brief for this season was just to keep us up.

Was there some expectation that Villa should be in for a relegation fight?  Even without Young and Downing, any half-decent manager should be able to achieve that rather underwhelming task.

And then what?  Is something special happening next season?  Is Lerner going to start backing us again?

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #995 on: February 26, 2012, 12:14:29 AM »
if he was sacked, i'd give it to Cowan's. the kids we're supposedly relying on for our bright future are his so if anyone can get something out of them it should be him. He knows the club inside out and what the fans expect  They'd also give him a bit more time than GH or Mcleish were given. Seems a better option than some of the names who'd we be likely to approach, and would take the job given the shit finances. We'd probably end up with Southgate this time

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #996 on: February 26, 2012, 12:16:35 AM »
Has anyone else noticed the facial expressions of McLeish and Peter Grant during our matches?

McLeish looks terrified and Grant just looks vacant.

Watching the pair of them, Grant seems to think he's some kind of tactical genius whilst Alex just screams his head off. Then sat in the background is Kevin McDonald, who I imagine doesn't have a voice on matchday. Same AM didn't turn up last summer by himself and taken McDonald as his Assistant as I really thought we could have made a Villa man out of McLeish. At least we know KMac's teams play good football and all the players respect him.

I'd imagine we'll find out the truth in the near future when it'll all come out in the wash. And boy, do we need a wash.. preferably with ice cold water.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #997 on: February 26, 2012, 07:18:03 AM »
if he was sacked, i'd give it to Cowan's. the kids we're supposedly relying on for our bright future are his so if anyone can get something out of them it should be him. He knows the club inside out and what the fans expect  They'd also give him a bit more time than GH or Mcleish were given. Seems a better option than some of the names who'd we be likely to approach, and would take the job given the shit finances. We'd probably end up with Southgate this time

Some good points greg but lambert would be my choice, hes made his way up the divisions and his teams play good attractive football, seems to have good man management skills and be a motivator too- reminds me a bit or graham taylor and a bit of o neill in a way .

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #998 on: February 26, 2012, 07:49:57 AM »
RL and PF got us into this ridiculous mess, they'd be the ones to solve the problem now.They won't get rid and they cannot be trusted to get it right this time.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #999 on: February 26, 2012, 07:52:12 AM »
I really do like McLeish and want him to succeed. I'm just struggling to see how it is going to work.
There was a glimmer of hope towards the end of last year that we was at a turning point and we were trying to play football. Sadly since the Chelsea game those glimmers have all but disappeared from our eyes and he is reverting to the football we all associated with him but without the strong defence. The divide is too much now for it to work out.

I see him as a wounded animal on the side of road who need putting out his misery. The only thing that worries me is the next appointment. Last summers hunt does not fill me with confidence for a replacement and I do not have a lot of faith in KM and Sid to see us through to the end. Maybe they could I don't know but for the first time in a long time I'm worried about our situation.

Offline Jimmy Smash

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1000 on: February 26, 2012, 07:53:16 AM »
Oh for Deadly Doug now. A quite walk in the garden, a look at the roses, a crocodile tear for the media, and a new Manager on Monday. Sniff.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1001 on: February 26, 2012, 08:31:13 AM »
Deadly would get shot of this fool. He saw it as a privileged to manage villa, not sentimental that he appointed them so can't get rid.

The only reason McLeish still has a job is because our board are like jellyfish without a sting.

Offline Moorski

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1002 on: February 26, 2012, 08:38:38 AM »
Sid & Kev Mac are not the answer at first team level, Mc Leish is likely to stay for at least another season, we have seen the Board make a hash of the last two appointments so what is likely to change. It is impossible to see how McLeish can ever get the supporters on his side and so it is causing a massive negative effect on the atmosphere at games at home in particular.The Board need to act in the summer for the Clubs sake and get the next appointment right - Paul Lambert!

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1003 on: February 26, 2012, 08:40:18 AM »
A few years ago we used to talk about Mancini and Hiddink replacing MON. Now we're wondering if Rogers and Lambert would think we're an attractive proposition.

Two years ago we were preparing for a wembley final, chasing a champions league place and going well in the fa cup- what a shocking state we are in now- how did it come to this?

I'll tell you in one word: FAULKENER.

Since our owner appointed him we have gone backwards faster than an WW2 Italian tank.
Not coincidence that once he was appointed as RL right hand man, MON fell out with him and we've had two disasterous managerial decisions since. Even if AM goes/is sacked can we trust this oaf to get someone better? I think not.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ? Poll reset after Wigan. [Reply#780]
« Reply #1004 on: February 26, 2012, 08:45:20 AM »
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Deadly would get shot of this fool. He saw it as a privileged to manage villa, not sentimental that he appointed them so can't get rid.

The only reason McLeish still has a job is because our board are like jellyfish without a sting.

It's some achievement....I'm starting to see the Ellis days with fondness!

I like McLeish as a person-but it won't work as he should never have been appointed and his results have not been good. I'm in the 'this will never work so let's take the required action' camp.

I have zero faith in the owners of AVFC, so I wouldn't be surprised if we are having the same discussions in 12 months.

 


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