AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[Zhong Yi]

like a few posters this season, and in this thread, I am also of the thinking that Paul Faulkener is a major reason we are in the mess we are in. By just going off what I have read on the internet since, I reckon he was a main reason in O'Neill leaving.

As for this season - worst since Venglos, no doubt about that. At least in that season we had a dynamic midfielder who at least gave some hope.

If ever there was a script written it is Sunderland under Martin O'Neill coming back to Villa Park at the end of this season and winning, winning well. No doom and gloom intended so I wont go as far as saying the 'R' word. But...it could happen. That's football.

Worst season since Venglos. end of. McLeish HAS to be sacked and a total clean sweep like GT or BFR is required in the summer or we are fucked next season. If we survive this one.

[Moorski]

If McLeish stays on then season ticket sales will be well down for next season plus other supporters who attend now & again will simply stay away, we need a positive Villa Park so he has to go nice guy or not.

[NeilH]

A few years ago we used to talk about Mancini and Hiddink replacing MON. Now we're wondering if Rogers and Lambert would think we're an attractive proposition.

Two years ago we were preparing for a wembley final, chasing a champions league place and going well in the fa cup- what a shocking state we are in now- how did it come to this?

I'll tell you in one word: FAULKENER.

Since our owner appointed him we have gone backwards faster than an WW2 Italian tank.
Not coincidence that once he was appointed as RL right hand man, MON fell out with him and we've had two disasterous managerial decisions since. Even if AM goes/is sacked can we trust this oaf to get someone better? I think not.

Its deeper than that. We have an absentee owner who has simply delegated control to a man who has made poor decision after poor decision. He is now rapidly trying to cover his own arse and knows he can get away with it because the owner has little or no interest. Its a very toxic mix and I can't see it ending any time soon.
The sad thing about all of this, is the people that are suffering due to this institutional competence are the fans; the 4000 who went to Wigan to see a manager out of his depth directing a team with no respect for him. I'd like to think that the likes of Faulkener are thinking about those loyal and poor souls when they once more stick their fingers in their ears and pretend that everything it okay, but I sense that we are the last thing they care about right now.

[Irish villain]

Keown thinks the villa fans need to lower their expectations: http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-fc-news/2012/02/26/martin-keown-says-aston-villa-fans-need-a-reality-check-66331-30407347/

[tarzansbrother]

Keown thinks the villa fans need to lower their expectations: http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-fc-news/2012/02/26/martin-keown-says-aston-villa-fans-need-a-reality-check-66331-30407347/

Keown needs to fuck off the Chimp looking inbred and worry about his own team.

[andyh]

Keown thinks the villa fans need to lower their expectations: http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-fc-news/2012/02/26/martin-keown-says-aston-villa-fans-need-a-reality-check-66331-30407347/

who really gives a fuck what Keown thinks or says ?

[Jimmy Smash]

There are so many things wrong about that article that I can't even be bothered to list them

[Moorski]

Keown could not wait to get away from Villa, his opinions mean nothing these days about us.

[eastie]

There are so many things wrong about that article that I can't even be bothered to list them

I cant even be bothered to read what he says- his opinion means nothing to me as he is not even a villa fan and was hardly loyal to the club .

[supertom]

"Step into my office, cus you're fucking fired!"

Get him out. It's shite. If we're gonna be struggling with relegation, could we at least be entertaining with it? Blackburn will be tougher than Wigan. Lost that and we're in the mix again. I can't see where our next goals are coming from. We might nab the odd one through Benty (if/when he's back this season), but he's that sort of forward, like Andy Cole was, that you need to create 3-4 chances for him a game, minimum and he'll stick one away.

No, he's got to go. For the sake of all our sanities.

[Irish villain]

I just posted the Keown piece because I stumbled across it and I thought he had been interested in us over recent seasons. However that article is ridiculously harsh on us at a time when we are already low.

[Jimmy Smash]

I just posted the Keown piece because I stumbled across it and I thought he had been interested in us over recent seasons. However that article is ridiculously harsh on us at a time when we are already low.

Wasn't criticising you. Just Keown.

[saunders_heroes]

If we sacked him now who would we get in? It would be madness to get rid of a manager this late into a season.
Leave him in place till the season ends, then give him the boot. He isn't fit enough to be our manager.

[jonc73]

Annoying to read but if you look back at some of the comments when we were managerless makes me think it's not without substance. Nobody was good enough it seemed to me.

There are a lot of unrealistic Villa fans around in my experience e.g still being unhappy when we were top under Gregory (style of football), same when MON was in charge at times.Trotting out statements from when Queen Victoria was on the throne etc etc.

I don't see that as the problem now though. Appointing the manager from your bitter rivals with a track record of relegation who the fans didn't want isn't working out....who could have known?

[pauliewalnuts]

If we sacked him now who would we get in? It would be madness to get rid of a manager this late into a season.
Leave him in place till the season ends, then give him the boot. He isn't fit enough to be our manager.

I understand that argument, and can see where you're coming from, but if we avoid relegation, there is no way on earth they're going to sack him, I'm afraid.