AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[Villanation]

Problem is who can McLiesh attract to the club and, RL gives him the summer, give him a transfer kitty of ex amount, it doesn't work, where then, and one thing is for sure, its becoming very apparent that RL pockets are far from bottomless, should we wast what little there is.

For me the next few games are crucial, drop points and Eck must be shown the door.

[Legion]

It's McLeish.

[DB]

No. McLeish deserves a summer transfer window where he gets financial backing from the Board to bring in his own players, particularly in defence. I believe he will get that support this close season. He can only then be rightfully judged.

Why take the chance? Next season we could well go down if he stays in charge - nothing from his past record or here has made me think that he can do anything regarding a 'success' even within the financial restriants. Get someone proven in dring the summer. I said on another post, MON has turned around a S-land squad IMO worse than ours - AMc is not getting the best out of the players.

get out of your mon dreamland, he got there spending lots of dough and is now getting the best out of players that were recently bought for lots of dough!
he nearly killed our club, ask celtic fans what they really think of him and the reply will be that he left the club with average players nearing the end of their careers on long contracts and earning loads of money!!! Sound familiar???

Martin O'Neill - Just like Harry Redknapp but without the twitch and the dodgy tax advice.

WTF??? Just because I make a positive remark about MON, I'm in a dreamland??? I was only making the point that before he arrived at S-land they were poor, now they have improved significantly - fact. My point is a better manager could come into Villa nd turn it around. I am fully aware of how MON f*cked us over.

[pauliewalnuts]

I can't imagine McLeish getting the sack, even if he gets us relegated.

Lerner, when taking the mind boggling decision to give him the job in the first place, staked his reputation on this appointment. He's not going to give him his P45 if he can avoid it.

I really do think that if we finish 15th or so this season, next year Villa Park is going to be more of a graveyard than it has been in many a year.

[Compass]

The only possible chance for McLeish to get sacked this season or the next if the attendence takes a massive drop. Once Randy's wallet takes a hit he'll make his move. At the moment, he doesn't give a crap about the way we play and rubbish results. He's been in hiding in the USA while leaving us with the dark cloud. All he cares about is staying in the league. The manager could finish 17th with below 40 points and he'll be given another season because Randy got his Sky cheque.

I have faith in the Villa fanbase they won't tolerate this any longer. It's not like they're taking any enjoyment of watching McLeish's anti football, horrible form of home results and the hostile crowd. There's an unlimited things to do better you could do for free with family/friends than spending quite abit of money watching dross from half arsed millionaires (that's the manager included) and I'm sure quite the majority of them won't purchase a season ticket next season unless of course they enjoy torturing themselves.

Yep, I have total faith that the season tickets will take a major hit next season and once Randy's wallet gets hurt (all he cares about is money, he's never really been a Villa fan) he'll be quick to get rid of him.

[jonc73]

I really do think that if we finish 15th or so this season, next year Villa Park is going to be more of a graveyard than it has been in many a year.

They'll be supporters at Villa Park whatever the situation, but there certainly isn't anything to get the fans excited when there. Sunderlands current success is particularly horrible given the decline Villa are in. I'm really not forward to playing them again.

Lerner is amazingly worse than Ellis in my view.I can't see good,times returning unless he sells up, the last 2 seasons have been baffling.  He's not a good American football owner either. His ideas simply don't work.

I had seen some good signs under Mcleish but the last game seemed a huge step back.he hasn't been able,to get the most of the players at his disposal and the fans will never be fully with him. The owner doesn't appear to have a winning strategy and I'm pretty sure the manager is here to stay.

Apathy all round, and opinion seems divided among the fan base so I can see a few more years of this until enough becomes enough.

[dingo]

Please sack him i used to love going to see the Villa .

[Dave Clark Five]

Yep, I have total faith that the season tickets will take a major hit next season

Is this what they mean when they say 'keep the faith'?

[pauliewalnuts]

Yep, I have total faith that the season tickets will take a major hit next season

Is this what they mean when they say 'keep the faith'?

Not really with regard to McLeish / us in particular, but in a general sense, it doesn't work that way any more, does it?

I think the balance tipped on that when ticket prices reached a certain level, and when we stopped being (in the eyes of the clubs ) supporters, and started being customers.

[Dave Clark Five]

Yep, I have total faith that the season tickets will take a major hit next season

Is this what they mean when they say 'keep the faith'?

Not really with regard to McLeish / us in particular, but in a general sense, it doesn't work that way any more, does it?

I think the balance tipped on that when ticket prices reached a certain level, and when we stopped being (in the eyes of the clubs ) supporters, and started being customers.

Big mistake they made there. Look at the crowd at Sunderland vs Arsenal. Pathetic. I think the bubble has burst. Empty seats everywhere. There will be an avalanche effect across all clubs. They try to cut prices but it makes no difference.

[pauliewalnuts]

I caught about ten minutes of that match, and was sure I heard the commentators refer to "a sprinkling of empty seats", which was at odds with the swathes and swathes of about 20,000 empty seats that I could see.

It was like an East German news broadcast from the 1970s, stoically denying the self evident truth.

I don't think the bubble has burst, and I suspect that for a few top clubs, it won't burst to such a degree as it will for others, but personally, the sooner it does, the better as far as I am concerned.

I've a feeling English football now is like Italian football in the late 80s - where all the money is, but mortgaged to its hilt and about to hit a decline.

[dave.woodhall]

Some clubs - and Sunderland are a classic example - aren't bothered about cups. They're mid-table, haven't won anything for decades and they still don't care.

[hawkeye]

Some clubs - and Sunderland are a classic example - aren't bothered about cups. They're mid-table, haven't won anything for decades and they still don't care.

the difference is that they have a shot at a semi final, have enough points to not worry about relegation and have won 11 out of the last 16, i would swap with them right now

[dave.woodhall]

Some clubs - and Sunderland are a classic example - aren't bothered about cups. They're mid-table, haven't won anything for decades and they still don't care.

the difference is that they have a shot at a semi final, have enough points to not worry about relegation and have won 11 out of the last 16, i would swap with them right now

And that has what, exactly, to do with their historically poor crowds in cup competitions?

[hawkeye]

Some clubs - and Sunderland are a classic example - aren't bothered about cups. They're mid-table, haven't won anything for decades and they still don't care.

the difference is that they have a shot at a semi final, have enough points to not worry about relegation and have won 11 out of the last 16, i would swap with them right now

And that has what, exactly, to do with their historically poor crowds in cup competitions?

i bet they sell out thier alllocation at godison