AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[N'ZMAV]

I personally feel that even if MON had stayed we still wouldn't have finished 9th last season....

[jonc73]

No we would have finished 7th or 8th...maybe even 6th

[Concrete John]

Slight off topic, but something occurred to me about MON when watching the Arsenal v Sunderland game this weekend.  We still debate whether he was agood manager or not, but I think the answer is he is a good manager of a team, but not of a club.  As a team manager, his job is to pick, train and motivate his players to get results in games, which he is excellent at.  As the manager of a club, he also has to navigate the transfer market, consider the larger financial position and build a sustainable model for the club.  These were his faults Villa. 

That's why Sunderland are seeing the best of him right now, but should they wish to build from there and establish themselves in the European spots, they may start seeing his faults.

[LeeB]

Slight off topic, but something occurred to me about MON when watching the Arsenal v Sunderland game this weekend.  We still debate whether he was agood manager or not, but I think the answer is he is a good manager of a team, but not of a club.  As a team manager, his job is to pick, train and motivate his players to get results in games, which he is excellent at.  As the manager of a club, he also has to navigate the transfer market, consider the larger financial position and build a sustainable model for the club.  These were his faults Villa. 

That's why Sunderland are seeing the best of him right now, but should they wish to build from there and establish themselves in the European spots, they may start seeing his faults.

John, that's absolutely bang on the money in my opinion.

[cheltenhamlion]

John - Spot on.

As for the candidate list, the first draft was quite good. It was when that didn't come off that we went into a tailspin.

[dave.woodhall]

That sounds like the kind of soundbite I'd expect to hear from Faulkner. Or someone peddling the "we're a mid-table mediocroty side, so best you get used to it" mantra on his behalf.

Aren't you the rebel, eh?

[Brend'Watkins]

Slight off topic, but something occurred to me about MON when watching the Arsenal v Sunderland game this weekend.  We still debate whether he was agood manager or not, but I think the answer is he is a good manager of a team, but not of a club.  As a team manager, his job is to pick, train and motivate his players to get results in games, which he is excellent at.  As the manager of a club, he also has to navigate the transfer market, consider the larger financial position and build a sustainable model for the club.  These were his faults Villa. 

That's why Sunderland are seeing the best of him right now, but should they wish to build from there and establish themselves in the European spots, they may start seeing his faults.

John, that's absolutely bang on the money in my opinion.

It might also help that that Arsenal are at their lowest ebb for many a season.

MON is a good team manager.  We are also finding out that he's a lucky manager.

[damon loves JT]

I am going to try very hard not to mention MON on here ever again.

[Concrete John]

I am going to try very hard not to mention MON on here ever again.

You might want to rethink the username then, Damon.

[Mister E]

Slight off topic, but something occurred to me about MON when watching the Arsenal v Sunderland game this weekend.  We still debate whether he was agood manager or not, but I think the answer is he is a good manager of a team, but not of a club.  As a team manager, his job is to pick, train and motivate his players to get results in games, which he is excellent at.  As the manager of a club, he also has to navigate the transfer market, consider the larger financial position and build a sustainable model for the club.  These were his faults Villa. 

That's why Sunderland are seeing the best of him right now, but should they wish to build from there and establish themselves in the European spots, they may start seeing his faults.

Yes, I watched that game with great interest.
I found myself looking at the early incarnation of MON's Villa team - incredible energy to close down the more gifted opponents, great team spirit, excellent at breaking out of defence.
With the announcement of Quinn's departure from Sunderland, it'll be interesting to see whether MON's influence grows to fill the space or whether Short has got him on a - well - short leash.

[damon loves JT]

I'm not changing my name. Pubey can bloody well change his. *puts 20p in the Pubey tin*

[DB]

Just heard from TalkSport that Alex Mc has 4 lowest win ratio of any Manager in the Prem, past or present. Great!

[pauliewalnuts]

Slight off topic, but something occurred to me about MON when watching the Arsenal v Sunderland game this weekend.  We still debate whether he was agood manager or not, but I think the answer is he is a good manager of a team, but not of a club.  As a team manager, his job is to pick, train and motivate his players to get results in games, which he is excellent at.  As the manager of a club, he also has to navigate the transfer market, consider the larger financial position and build a sustainable model for the club.  These were his faults Villa. 

That's why Sunderland are seeing the best of him right now, but should they wish to build from there and establish themselves in the European spots, they may start seeing his faults.

Agree entirely.

Great managers leave a great legacy. His legacy here was far from great.

[Reuben]

Just heard from TalkSport that Alex Mc has 4 lowest win ratio of any Manager in the Prem, past or present. Great!

Are the other three Barnsley, Swindon and Derby managers?  (move to Football trivia thread)

[London Villan]

Just heard from TalkSport that Alex Mc has 4 lowest win ratio of any Manager in the Prem, past or present. Great!

Worth £3m in anybody's book.