AVFC statement - McLeish sacked.

[jonc73]

Just watched the Sky interview-worrying viewing.AM is right about the chances though-Cuellar missed the target with a free header.

Overall I worry about relegation as we don't have a settled first eleven and aren't getting points.I totally blame Lerner who has turned out to be a disaster in my view. Things seemed rosier for a while as we had O'neill but those days seem a long time ago now. He's useless as an American football owner too.

Nothing will change even if we lose every game until the end of the season.Mcleish isn't getting a fair chance because of where he came from, which is the boards fault but he's here to stay.

[MarkM]

With our form at the moment, we could very quickly be dragged right into the mess at the bottom.

[PaulWinch again]

Just watched the Sky interview-worrying viewing.AM is right about the chances though-Cuellar missed the target with a free header.

Overall I worry about relegation as we don't have a settled first eleven and aren't getting points.I totally blame Lerner who has turned out to be a disaster in my view. Things seemed rosier for a while as we had O'neill but those days seem a long time ago now. He's useless as an American football owner too.

Nothing will change even if we lose every game until the end of the season.Mcleish isn't getting a fair chance because of where he came from, which is the boards fault but he's here to stay.

It is not about where he came from. He talked about chances in first half and I don't remember any of those. People are fed up because they are fed up with the team being set up to try and limit the amount of goals we get beaten by. That is completely Mcleish's fault, it's obvious as well look at the Arsenal game the fans applauded the team off despite defeat. That's because we actually tried to win and impose our game on the opposition. So anyone saying it's because he's from blose is off the mark, it's that we are playing turgid, negative rubbish.

[picicata]

The only possible reason I can see for not kicking McCleish out the door now is that getting a suitable replacement at this time would be exceedingly difficult. Steve Bruce's face looms horribly large in my mind as I think of Randy's next appointment.

However, if he does not pick up 6 points or more from the next 4 games then take him out in the yard and shoot him. It would be the kindest thing.

[AvFc4eVeR]

We won't get relegated.

We have less points than blose did at this point last season...

I'm getting bored of hearing this.  It was tougher at the bottom last year and they got a bit distracted with a cup win.

Sounds Like a quote from AM in a few weeks time...

[glasses]

A yes for me, sadly. Really wanted him to succeed, but I can't defend the strategy today and the interview tonight. He looks out of his depth and just hasn't been good enough.

He needs to go before we are dragged into an abyss.

Two years ago we were all looking forward to a trip to Wembley for our first cup final in 10 years, and things seemed pretty rosy.

How things have changed eh. Fucks sake.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Just watched the Sky interview-worrying viewing.AM is right about the chances though-Cuellar missed the target with a free header.

Overall I worry about relegation as we don't have a settled first eleven and aren't getting points.I totally blame Lerner who has turned out to be a disaster in my view. Things seemed rosier for a while as we had O'neill but those days seem a long time ago now. He's useless as an American football owner too.

Nothing will change even if we lose every game until the end of the season.Mcleish isn't getting a fair chance because of where he came from, which is the boards fault but he's here to stay.

It is not about where he came from. He talked about chances in first half and I don't remember any of those. People are fed up because they are fed up with the team being set up to try and limit the amount of goals we get beaten by. That is completely Mcleish's fault, it's obvious as well look at the Arsenal game the fans applauded the team off despite defeat. That's because we actually tried to win and impose our game on the opposition. So anyone saying it's because he's from blose is off the mark, it's that we are playing turgid, negative rubbish.

This

[myf]

We won't get relegated.

We have less points than blose did at this point last season...

I'm getting bored of hearing this.  It was tougher at the bottom last year and they got a bit distracted with a cup win.

Sounds Like a quote from AM in a few weeks time...

We'll have to wait and see but bringing that stat up today is meaningless.  No one is mentioning that MON only had 28 points after his first 25 games in charge - that was less than the noses last year!

PPL are quoting the stat as a kind of "i told you so", in the perverse hope that we get relegated and they are proven right.

[not3bad]

I voted yes.  He has mitigating circumstances, I agree, but most thought he had learned a lesson after the Spurs game.  That was that we want Aston Villa to go out and try to win games, no matter what the opposition. Houllier shot himself in the foot with his team selection and his fond glances at his old club.  Mcleish has shot himself in the foot with his negativity in the face of strong opposition.  But we have seen this year that all the top teams can be beaten if you go in with the right attitude and give it a go.  Mcleish, I don't think, is the man to give us that attitude.

[AvFc4eVeR]

We won't get relegated.

We have less points than blose did at this point last season...

I'm getting bored of hearing this.  It was tougher at the bottom last year and they got a bit distracted with a cup win.

Sounds Like a quote from AM in a few weeks time...

We'll have to wait and see but bringing that stat up today is meaningless.  No one is mentioning that MON only had 28 points after his first 25 games in charge - that was less than the noses last year!

PPL are quoting the stat as a kind of "i told you so", in the perverse hope that we get relegated and they are proven right.

I for one do not hope we get relegated, neither do I believe anyone posting on this forum would wish it upon our beloved Villa.

I do however believe, we are not too good to be relegated.

I also believe that there is a common perverse consensus amongst villa fans that we will not be relegated, and I am merely pointing out it is a very real possibility, given AM's recent history in the premier league.

[maigrait]

Watched the match with "man united" father in law. He wanted us to beat them more than anything but couldn't believe, like myself, the utter dross that was played out. Why so negative? Why start with heskey? I swear it cut to the bench after the goal with KevMac, Grant and Mcleish actually saying what the feck do we do now?
They haven't a clue... Gary Gardner good to see him start. Zog looked up for it when he came on, so did Ireland. Just too little, too late.

No point sacking him mid-season, we wouldn't get anyone decent to manage us.

We have to win the next four or we are shafted.

People saying Lambert... wtf would he come to us? We have probably less money to spend than Norwich!! Pointless him moving.

This is as bad as O'Leary days or Taylor (the 2nd time).

Pity first post has to be so negative, been lurking for a while - but the dross served up today meant I had to vent my spleen somehow...!!

[myf]

We won't get relegated.

We have less points than blose did at this point last season...

I'm getting bored of hearing this.  It was tougher at the bottom last year and they got a bit distracted with a cup win.

Sounds Like a quote from AM in a few weeks time...

We'll have to wait and see but bringing that stat up today is meaningless.  No one is mentioning that MON only had 28 points after his first 25 games in charge - that was less than the noses last year!

PPL are quoting the stat as a kind of "i told you so", in the perverse hope that we get relegated and they are proven right.

I for one do not hope we get relegated, neither do I believe anyone posting on this forum would wish it upon our beloved Villa.

I do however believe, we are not too good to be relegated.

I also believe that there is a common perverse consensus amongst villa fans that we will not be relegated, and I am merely pointing out it is a very real possibility, given AM's recent history in the premier league.

Of course we are not too good to go down, but that could be levellled at half the league.  Quoting the blues stat is scaremongering, and just adds to the doom.

I would say the chances of relegation are slim rather than a "very real possibility" based upon the points we have and those of the teams below us.

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Yes.

[itbrvilla]

Yes. He's completely clueless.

[mr woo]

People saying Lambert... wtf would he come to us? We have probably less money to spend than Norwich!!

He'd come mate, Villa will always be a bigger draw than Norwich, regardless of league position