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Offline Legion

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #225 on: February 12, 2012, 08:52:12 PM »
Laurel and Hardy springs to mind.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #226 on: February 12, 2012, 08:53:40 PM »
I'm not a defeatist and I'd never demand the sacking of a Villa manager but the lack of ambition makes no sense at all. People pay to watch Villa in the expectation, or at least the hope, that we will give the top four a bloody nose once in a while. If the club is not interested in that, and just wants to play the percentages against Bolton and Wigan, then why would you part with your money?

Exactly my thoughts, football is meant to be entertainment and what is on show at Aston Villa these days is about as far away from entertainment as is possible.

I dunno about saying it's not 'entertainment', it's kind of been like watching a dramatic comedy for the last few years.

With the exception of the comedy bit.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #227 on: February 12, 2012, 08:54:28 PM »
There came a point last season when things looked a bit sticky (we had to face Newcastle at home I think) when the Villa supporters seemed to draw a collective line underneath all the negativity surrounding the club and simply rallied around to help win a crucial three points.   I think we may well be  entering that kind of situation again.  McLeish will not be getting the bullet any time soon - we're all just going to have to roll our sleeves up and lift the club up the table.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #228 on: February 12, 2012, 08:58:30 PM »
Yes, I think he should. I'd accept him continuing for the rest of the season as I'd prepared myself for little more than staying up anyway, but he needs to go in the summer. Obviously, if he goes now I'd be happier.

I just think he was a poor, poor appointment and not the right manager for us, in the situation we are in. We have a better squad than McLeish thinks - he's stifling some of the talent we do have. And for those who believe he needs time, I don't think he'll get better. I can see a downward spiral.

As I said a couple of months back, I'd give the job to McDonald. If we're cutting our cloth accordingly, being careful on what we spend and have a strategy of bringing through the young players, then this is the kind of guy we need. He at least knows coaching inside out, he'd get us playing some decent stuff, he'd give a few more of the younger players opportunities, rather than forcing past-it senior pros into positions they are unsuitable for, and I'd wager he'd get more out of the group we have.

Finally, yes: McLeish may be the wrong man for this job but those who made the decision to appoint him, in spite of everything that screamed 'no', should be doing a hell of a lot of soul searching right now.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #229 on: February 12, 2012, 09:01:32 PM »
I'm not a defeatist and I'd never demand the sacking of a Villa manager but the lack of ambition makes no sense at all. People pay to watch Villa in the expectation, or at least the hope, that we will give the top four a bloody nose once in a while. If the club is not interested in that, and just wants to play the percentages against Bolton and Wigan, then why would you part with your money?

Exactly my thoughts, football is meant to be entertainment and what is on show at Aston Villa these days is about as far away from entertainment as is possible.

I dunno about saying it's not 'entertainment', it's kind of been like watching a dramatic comedy for the last few years.

With the exception of the comedy bit.

If you try and imagine it from an outside perspective it's hilarious.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #230 on: February 12, 2012, 09:01:37 PM »
There came a point last season when things looked a bit sticky (we had to face Newcastle at home I think) when the Villa supporters seemed to draw a collective line underneath all the negativity surrounding the club and simply rallied around to help win a crucial three points.   I think we may well be  entering that kind of situation again.  McLeish will not be getting the bullet any time soon - we're all just going to have to roll our sleeves up and lift the club up the table.

And in the long term we were repaid with an almost universally unwanted manager, our best players being sold, and being served up terrible, negative, unambitious football.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #231 on: February 12, 2012, 09:05:22 PM »
I can't do quotes. I think Billy Walker is right.

I can't be arsed with bedsheets, I will support the team until we get out the other side. But once we are there, I want to see evidence that the club wants to do more than just tread water in this division.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #232 on: February 12, 2012, 09:09:51 PM »
I've said this elsewhere, but we all knew this was going to happen. Let's say Lerner gives McLeish the bullet - what then? Our chairman doesn't know the first thing about football, and neither do any of the people he has around him. Can he get the right replacement in to stop the rot that he himself has created?

Our last two managerial recruitment drives have been farcical to say the least, and both times we ended up with the wrong man. Does anyone have the faith in our chairman to make the right choice now?

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #233 on: February 12, 2012, 09:16:18 PM »
The bullet can't be far away, even our no nothing board must realise it's just not working.

He's as relevant now as Whitney Houston's crack pipe.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #234 on: February 12, 2012, 09:17:10 PM »
I don't think Mr. Lerner, Sir will sack him.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #235 on: February 12, 2012, 09:18:33 PM »
0% chance of it happening, he'll be given until Summer 2013 come what may.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #236 on: February 12, 2012, 09:19:26 PM »
Does anyone know what the win percentage stats are for the other managers who have already been sacked this year compared to McLeish?

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #237 on: February 12, 2012, 09:25:47 PM »
Brian Little. A returning hero might be enough to secure enough points. He did it once before and has the respect of the fans. It would give the place such a lift.

I would be ecstatic if this somehow happened.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #238 on: February 12, 2012, 09:26:05 PM »
Absolutely no chance of Lerner sacking Eck.  Unless the unthinkable happens, and possibly not even then.

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Re: Should AM be sacked ?
« Reply #239 on: February 12, 2012, 09:29:57 PM »
Relegation is unthinkable and would be unbearable, I cannot think of anything worse

 


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